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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:28 am 
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Just looking at the scarf joint and the depth of my truss rod channel and thinking a volute would not be a bad idea.

Anyone ever glued one in?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:53 pm 
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I think some pics of your specific situation would help people know how to respond. My hunch about this is that your glued volute will be mostly a cosmetic addition. But I doubt that it would hurt anything. Whether it will actually help, I can't say. So....pictures, please. Let's see what the experts say.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:03 pm 
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Definitely unconventional. I've never heard of gluing on a volute. But then again, the glue bond is stronger than the wood fiber alone, so I'd imagine that it would be plenty strong.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:06 pm 
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I did it on a mandolin. Mostly because I liked the look but I think it added strength too.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:29 am 
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I probably should not be discussing this, since English isn't my language, but... Actually "...a volute is a spiral scroll-like ornament that forms the basis of the Ionic order, found in the capital of the Ionic column" (wiki)

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The violin scroll / volute.

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On violin family instruments, I believe they call the part we are discussing a hand stop. At least that's what they are called on banjos, if that counts...

If you feel like gluing one in, I say go for it!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:01 am 
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cphanna wrote:
I think some pics of your specific situation would help people know how to respond. .... So....pictures, please. Let's see what the experts say.


Is there an easy way to post a photo here without having to publish the photo online first?

Jeff


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:14 am 
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Maybe this will work.

It did!!!

The blue ink line shows the depth of the rod cavity ... and the remaining maple.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:27 am 
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So, is it for looks, or reinforcement?
I do like the way they look,
so, go for it!
Interesting about what a volute really is.
I'm going to start calling them a hand stop.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:08 am 
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I'm thinking it should reinforce the 15 degree scarf joint. Looks a little thin there.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:19 pm 
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Maple is mighty strong wood,
so, IMO it's not needed for reinforcement.
It will probably break though,
because I gave you that advise.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:39 am 
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I put the volut on the mosrite neck,their real thin. That's the most comon place for a guitar neck to break if it should fall or get steped on eek .


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