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After rereading this thread start to finish, you OLF'rs should be ashamed. If you have issues with someone PM them. Tell them off there. If this really is a kid and he's overstayed his welcome, act like the adults your supposed to be and teach rather then scold.

I'm ashamed of you guys, this is caddie eighth grade girl stuff. The high and mighty lashing out, it's just sad.

This is exactly why I don't post very often. This is not your house or your property, your not the boss and the voice of the right. Stop acting like it's your turf and this is some sort of a pi#$ing match.

I hope you see my pervious post. If you all are keen to share then answer his question like I did. Address your design process and thoughts and lay off the attitude. I actually think about the things he asked about quite often and they are valid questions to me. This is a Acoustic builder forum primarily and maybe you just don't think of electric guitar construction issues. But for those of us that do build electrics, successfully, (apparently you guys are too good for electrics) some of his Q's are just as valid and hard hitting to real electric builders as the Titebond vs Hide Glue threads. If your fed up with a guy who's asking too much too often, then PM him to dial it down and don't post this stuff in the thread.

It doesn't matter how many times he posted this, and what other threads he started that asked the uber basic questions, and where else he may have posted it. I realize it's probably merited by what I'm sensing and by the response of those who are responding so poorly... not what I would have expected from a couple of you guys. If you don't have time to answer tactfully, don't. Don't press a button and change your settings to "ignore" him (how juvenile), be a man and just do it like you do with weird Uncle Al at X-mas time... Who's always telling dirty stories in the corner to your grandma and hitting on your little brothers new girlfriend- he's 73 for goodness sakes!

All of you need to apologize, and start acting like men who care about how they sound, get off the computer and out of your heads... and egos; and go make some dust.

No other correspondence outside this thread:



Chris
PS: If you think I'm an old man you obviously haven't watched any of my videos... ya know the one's that teach for free when you've been complaining about a lack of resources and I've offered you multiple ones...?

Bottom line Dude, you are acting like you have a Hot Date, pull out the condom, unroll it, think it's too long, put it on, finding that it fills with air and breaks. Why because you didn't read the directions or missed that day in Sex Ed. No responsibility for your for your actions, just WANT WANT WANT and NOW. No willingness on your part to help yourself in anyway.

Really, dude you are really a disaster when it comes to people skills. You're a "I want it now attitude" will only get you so far and guess what you are "not entitled", as well as "we don't owe you".

So do us all a favor, GO AWAY and grow up!

and you need to change your tampon

It's going bad here. Guys, just ignore him. And if he continues, well, one day he will understand what we were trying to say.

Dude you are F'n with the wrong Marine. I have Grand kids that have better manners than you and they are only 6 years old.
I agree.

That exactly illustrates my point, Fillippo. Thanks for that. To the impatient, adolecent mindset, "thinking about doing" is that same as "doing". Judging from his questions, he's no more spent his summer studying a book than I have spent summer on the moon. He probably went to the library or bookstore, glanced through a book, saw some things and left. To a teenager, that's the same thing as spending a summer. The simple fact is that the information in the book required him to "do" something- to spend time on it, absorb it, work it. Those are things that an impatient teenager can't be bothered to do. Again, I understand your post, it's just that adults are communicating on a different level than a 16 year old kid. He REALLY doesn't understand the difference.

Anyway, I just thought I'd up my post count to 6. At this rate, I might hit 20 before I die

hey, now fellas lets not bash all teenagers, im not to far passed you know.

Y Despite what you say, you've not shown any intention of being serious about building. You've simply shown that you like to talk about the ideas of guitars. The fine people here are busy. They have full time jobs, families, resonsibilities, etc. None of which you have to worry about, so I don't expect you to understand. Your friends would love to sit and chat for hours about things, but the people here simply have to much to do to engage you in meaningless chatter. Get busy doing things, not just talking about them. I think you'll be much better off.

Just some friendly advice.

"I cant even play, but I have a desire to learn about it all. Mandolin, violin, cello, stand up bass, acoustic and electric bass&guitar etc...etc...

You don't unterstand, again, dude?

Asking 27 stupid questions at once is exactly the same than posting 27 stupid threads.

All your questions can be answered on Google in 60 seconds, or less. Or are just useless "polls".

Personal opinions, tastes and choices are... PERSONAL opinions, tastes and choices.

You can't make polls if you want, but it's not the place here. Or they have to be usefull or interesting, concerning something that haven't been discussed hundred times.

If you want opinion, ask musicians. They'll be your customers, if you become a luthier.

If you need help for building guitars, these are BOOKS, nice tutorials on the internet, luthiery school, etc...

THEN, if you're stuck... you can ask an inteliigent question here, and people will answer.

PLEASE, be respectful for the luthiers that are giving their time for you.


Try to be logic.

I hope you understand, now.

Francis