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Ken Nagy
 Post subject: Strange Headstock
PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2023 4:00 pm 
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I saw this build in my feed. It said it was a 12 string, but I only see 6 tuners. It took me a while to find out how the thing works. A Rickenbacker 620/12

It is a very compact, and cool looking head. Not sure I'd want an electric, a 12 string would be cool. But it is a very interesting build; I'm only up to 12. There are like 40 of them.

Time killer!

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Yes, indeed. That is a Roger Rossmeisl design, intended to keep a longer peghead from making the guitar neck heavy. Roger would rout through the peghead, and cross-drill the holes - then laminate a piece of maple on the back of the peghead to enclose it. He was a clever guy! It also makes it easy to know which machine head you want when tuning the guitar.

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It's a clever design like Chris said but I hate them and I am not alone. They are a pain in the arse to restring and the very thick barrel for the high strings results in slipping of say a .009 if you don't tie it on. It already takes 3 years ;) to restring a 12 for a busy, commercial shop and this is the most time consuming design I know of.
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Locking tuners, brother.

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It's the price you paid for being a Byrds fanatic. I bought a new 360/12 in 1967 and I loved the look of the headstock, but it was a pain to change strings. The template he made looks good with the slots open and string changes would be easier, but I assume strength would be an issue with that.

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Lyon and Healy tiples from the 20's had a somewhat similar configuration for the 10 tuners. Although they were all slot head tuners, alternating the buttons up and down allowed the tuners to be placed much closer together than a more conventional slot head.

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Chris Pile wrote:
Locking tuners, brother.


Yeah that would be a huge improvement.


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kfish wrote:
It's the price you paid for being a Byrds fanatic. I bought a new 360/12 in 1967 and I loved the look of the headstock, but it was a pain to change strings. The template he made looks good with the slots open and string changes would be easier, but I assume strength would be an issue with that.

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I don't think that I'd be too worried with 18mm thick maple.

The videos make me think about planning steps out.

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