Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:52 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 9:18 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am
Posts: 5821
First name: Chris
Last Name: Pile
City: Wichita
State: Kansas
Country: Good old US of A
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Quote:
Oh and I used steel wool, STEEL WOOL, STEEL WOOL on all four of these guitars and some of them I did twice just to be the putz that I am. No offense Chris my friend this is not directed at you.


Yeah, right. No Christmas card for you this year.

_________________
"Act your age, not your shoe size" - Prince



These users thanked the author Chris Pile for the post: Hesh (Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:33 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:35 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13386
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Chris Pile wrote:
Quote:
Oh and I used steel wool, STEEL WOOL, STEEL WOOL on all four of these guitars and some of them I did twice just to be the putz that I am. No offense Chris my friend this is not directed at you.


Yeah, right. No Christmas card for you this year.


What about Hanukkah? :)

And I'm sending you a Christmas card anyway and you will just have to get over it. :P



These users thanked the author Hesh for the post: Chris Pile (Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:43 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:38 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13386
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Just got home with the 339. My friend collects vintage 70's stereo equipment and he's looking for a like new 70's Sansui, Maranz or Pioneer receiver for me and some AR speakers. They just don't make em like they used to. Nothing like J Giles on vintage stereo gear or Cream!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:47 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:42 pm
Posts: 400
First name: Pierre
Last Name: Castonguay
City: Québec, Qc
Country: Canada
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Hesh wrote:
Just got home with the 339. My friend collects vintage 70's stereo equipment and he's looking for a like new 70's Sansui, Maranz or Pioneer receiver for me and some AR speakers. They just don't make em like they used to. Nothing like J Giles on vintage stereo gear or Cream!

Hey Hesh… see what's living in my main room… ;-)Image


Pierre
Guitares Torvisse

_________________
Pierre Castonguay



These users thanked the author Smylight for the post (total 3): Hesh (Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:30 am) • joshnothing (Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:58 am) • Chris Pile (Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:14 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:59 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:10 pm
Posts: 148
Location: Clayton, NY
First name: Dan
Last Name: Miller
City: Cape Vincent
State: NY
Zip/Postal Code: 13618
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Boatbuilders use bronze wool, as it doesn't leave rust stains in a rust inducing environment. Perhaps this would be an alternative for those who neither like steel wool nor scotch bright pads.



These users thanked the author Dan Miller for the post (total 2): Hesh (Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:32 am) • Chris Pile (Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:59 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:38 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13386
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Dan Miller wrote:
Boatbuilders use bronze wool, as it doesn't leave rust stains in a rust inducing environment. Perhaps this would be an alternative for those who neither like steel wool nor scotch bright pads.


Thanks Dan and good idea. For me to change though the value add has to be greater than staining when no one's guitar should even ever be in a rust encouraging environment.

What stops me from considering bronze steel wool is it still conducts and that is the major problem with steel wool it can short out the electronics and destroy a pick-up if a small particle gets in the wrong place.

Chris is absolutely right about this and I do not want to minimize his point. We "get away with it"... because we fully tape up the electronics and then clean everything very well afterwards. Still if I had something that worked as well, was not expensive (I go though a lot, did 51 guitars in October) I would use it.

Good idea though man, thanks!!! :)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:09 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:33 am
Posts: 1876
First name: Willard
Last Name: Guthrie
City: Cumberland
State: Maryland 21502
Zip/Postal Code: 21502
Country: United State
Focus: Repair
Status: Semi-pro
Goodness... I wish I had seen your post a bit earlier, Mr. Breakstone I'll check with Mr. Stock, but last time I was there, I was offered a Sansui 8080 and a few other bits and pieces unearthed from the storage room in the latest round of divestment. I have a nice little system I use in my home, so did not take him up on that offer. At last conversation, I believe it went to one of the shop's long-time customers in trade for a basket case 00-21NY, but I will check and see if that deal went through.

I always wondered what was in the huge Sansui receiver and Technics turntable (I do not recall that model number) boxes buried in the back of the shop storage room, but it appears that they have been used to store their original contents since the 1990's.

Separate note: who keeps the boxes stereo gear came in for 47 years? Apparently the same people that keep their original Apple MacIntosh w/ box and all their Lie-Nielsen plane boxes. Sheesh. The packrat gene seems to be a male-dominant problem. Pay no attention to my spare bedroom closet full of 30 year-old skeins of yarn... totally different situation. ;)

On bronze wool... just like plain steel wool, bronze wool debris can behave poorly with water-based finishes or under shellac, but otherwise is as non-magnetic (so unlikely to migrate to pickups) as the higher quality stainless wool we used.

_________________
For the times they are a changin'

- Bob Dylan



These users thanked the author Woodie G for the post: Hesh (Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:27 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:30 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13386
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Woodie G wrote:
Goodness... I wish I had seen your post a bit earlier, Mr. Breakstone I'll check with Mr. Stock, but last time I was there, I was offered a Sansui 8080 and a few other bits and pieces unearthed from the storage room in the latest round of divestment. I have a nice little system I use in my home, so did not take him up on that offer. At last conversation, I believe it went to one of the shop's long-time customers in trade for a basket case 00-21NY, but I will check and see if that deal went through.

I always wondered what was in the huge Sansui receiver and Technics turntable (I do not recall that model number) boxes buried in the back of the shop storage room, but it appears that they have been used to store their original contents since the 1990's.

Separate note: who keeps the boxes stereo gear came in for 47 years? Apparently the same people that keep their original Apple MacIntosh w/ box and all their Lie-Nielsen plane boxes. Sheesh. The packrat gene seems to be a male-dominant problem. Pay no attention to my spare bedroom closet full of 30 year-old skeins of yarn... totally different situation. ;)

On bronze wool... just like plain steel wool, bronze wool debris can behave poorly with water-based finishes or under shellac, but otherwise is as non-magnetic (so unlikely to migrate to pickups) as the higher quality stainless wool we used.


And in the original boxes too, very cool!!! :D I'm good on the stereo gear but thanks a million for the offer Woodie. I like the old stuff from my youth where you turn a knob not search for a plastic remote control :)

Good point on the brass steel wool not being magnetic, that escaped me.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:31 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13386
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Smylight wrote:
Hesh wrote:
Just got home with the 339. My friend collects vintage 70's stereo equipment and he's looking for a like new 70's Sansui, Maranz or Pioneer receiver for me and some AR speakers. They just don't make em like they used to. Nothing like J Giles on vintage stereo gear or Cream!

Hey Hesh… see what's living in my main room… ;-)Image


Pierre
Guitares Torvisse


I just saw this, very cool Pierre!!! This is the stuff our my youth that I miss and love, real stereo gear not the plastic crap of today.



These users thanked the author Hesh for the post: Smylight (Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:55 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 34 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 93 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com