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 Post subject: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:58 pm 
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Is the one folks like so much?


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
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If you meant to post a photo or a link, you didn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:56 pm 
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No photo. I was on their website, and they seem to sell 8 different ones. So I'm wondering which is the one we're supposed know and love as luthiers...


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
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I have two—a very old one ( probably 1950s—it’s sticky outside of the 40-60% range and I din’t trust it anymore) and a more modern one (maybe only a couple of decades old). The technology in them, and in the new ones, seems to be the same. It’s a hair on a windlass driving gears to drive the dial. So, in spite of the different models and the name changes through the years, they all ought to be equivalent. So, pick one. I went to the Abbeon page where they have a synthetic hair hygrometer with the same specs as the others for significantly less money. But, LMII has the standard one on sale now for a very good price.

Remember that even though it says it’s calibrated, you have to calibrate it when you get it and about every year thereafter.


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:37 pm 
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Here's the one I've used about the last ten years. AB167. I like it. Never off by 5-7% when I calibrate every one or 6 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:45 pm 
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I have owned an Abbeon with just a hygrometer (no thermometer) for quite a while. I recently bought a new one, with a thermometer. LMI had the best price. Not only does that give me comfort that it is a good hygrometer for guitar making, but I saved some money compared to buying one from other places. I just looked, and LMI has them on sale lower than what I paid a few months ago. Carpe Diem! Go buy one!


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:42 pm 
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Mine is an AB167, bought used awhile back. I checked the calibration last month after doing it eighteen months ago, and it was very close to right. They seem to take awhile to settle down in a new environment, in my experience (?) .


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
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Thanks folks!


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:29 am 
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This one has performed flawlessly for me since 2007 when I bought it at Elderly. I calibrate it once a year with a wet bulb test and if it's off at all it's only a few percent annually.

Fischer from Germany makes good ones too that cost a bit less and Mario recommended one and I bought it and it's great too.


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
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I’m running a Fischer human-hair hygrometer, it’s slightly more accurate (like a percent or two) compared to a synthetic hair hygrometer but requires more maintenance. Either type of hair hygrometer works great as long as you have a way to check and recalibrate when required - I have a cheap sling psychometer which I pull out every now and then as a sanity check.


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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:16 am 
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joshnothing wrote:
I’m running a Fischer human-hair hygrometer, it’s slightly more accurate (like a percent or two) compared to a synthetic hair hygrometer but requires more maintenance. Either type of hair hygrometer works great as long as you have a way to check and recalibrate when required - I have a cheap sling psychometer which I pull out every now and then as a sanity check.


Do we know where that hair was from? :)



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Hesh wrote:
joshnothing wrote:
I’m running a Fischer human-hair hygrometer, it’s slightly more accurate (like a percent or two) compared to a synthetic hair hygrometer but requires more maintenance. Either type of hair hygrometer works great as long as you have a way to check and recalibrate when required - I have a cheap sling psychometer which I pull out every now and then as a sanity check.


Do we know where that hair was from? :)

Although I’m generally an inquisitive guy, sometimes it’s better not to find out how the sausages are made :D



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 Post subject: Re: Which Abbeon?
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joshnothing wrote:
Hesh wrote:
joshnothing wrote:
I’m running a Fischer human-hair hygrometer, it’s slightly more accurate (like a percent or two) compared to a synthetic hair hygrometer but requires more maintenance. Either type of hair hygrometer works great as long as you have a way to check and recalibrate when required - I have a cheap sling psychometer which I pull out every now and then as a sanity check.


Do we know where that hair was from? :)

Although I’m generally an inquisitive guy, sometimes it’s better not to find out how the sausages are made :D


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