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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:25 am 
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I am looking at trying the above guitar support for classical playing. I am worried about damage to the finish. One guitar is an old Kohno, which has cashew finish. Any advice?

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Only advice I have is that a customer of mine has one and uses it for extended practice and performing on one year old FP shellac. No problems so far. Cashew might be a whole other ball game.

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I would be inclined to use one similar to what Michael has posted, where the guitar side rests on the support and the support rests on your leg. The "Guitarlift" support looks like it concentrates the weight along a narrower band on your leg, the suction cups may damp the back some, and if the suction cups come loose the guitar being otherwise unsupported might fall.
Here is a comparison video of some guitar supports:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDQJYhPilek
Muriel Anderson often uses a support and might be able to advise you on them. She is using one in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYgNc1Qtqlk


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:30 am 
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What is a cashew finish? Never heard of it.

About 95 percent of my guitar playing now is classical and while I do ok with a traditional foot rest I do get back issues once and a while. What I have found that works best for me? Good old strap.

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I also tried the supports and ended up using a strap.

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I saw the heading and thought, “Hello, my name is Bob and I’m a guitar-aholic”. I understand now what you mean. I guess THIS is my support group.

Never been able to accept those knee braces. I use a footstool, but as unconventional as it seems, I too am starting to like a good old fashioned strap.


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Putting a strap button on a fine handmade classical guitar is anathema to many players. There might be an opportunity for someone to make a clamp like a violin chin rest uses with a strap button mounted on it for those who need to strap one on their classical guitar [:Y:] laughing6-hehe



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Some classical guitar players who choose to use a strap but are still held back by the convictions of traditions ( ;) ) are using suction cups with little hooks on them to hold the strap.



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Conventions in the Classical world are a killer! I know several players that use that support. Those that do seem to like the stability it provides. It is very adaptable. That said, I have had bad luck with suction cups on my guitars. They don't seem to stick very well. They are fine for a while, but who knows when it will fail. Not a good picture for a performance!

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You know, I've thought about this support and others for several years. It seems like it might be nice to incorporate a threaded insert or two in the sides or back edge somewhere and design a support around that, but I just don't have the guts to do it!
I do like this design though for the flexibility it brings. Footstools hurt my back too.

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WaddyThomson wrote:
Conventions in the Classical world are a killer! I know several players that use that support. Those that do seem to like the stability it provides. It is very adaptable. That said, I have had bad luck with suction cups on my guitars. They don't seem to stick very well. They are fine for a while, but who knows when it will fail. Not a good picture for a performance!


I had the same problem with mine until I got my finish chops down. Turns out it was shrinkage of the flller in the pores. With a smoother finish, no longer a problem.

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I have gone in the opposite direction! I French polish with Royal-Lac then rub down with fine steel wool and put on a coat of wax on the body and top and buff that out by hand. Gives a very nice sheen without being highly glossy. Kinda like the look. That said, not a good environment for suction cups. My favorite attachment is the one that attaches with Magnets that are placed inside with removable tape, like those wall hangers use. That support is very adjustable, and just pulls right off. While on, it's solid. Can't remember who developed it.

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I have gone in the opposite direction! I French polish with Royal-Lac then rub down with fine steel wool and put on a coat of wax on the body and top and buff that out by hand. Gives a very nice sheen without being highly glossy. Kinda like the look. That said, not a good environment for suction cups. My favorite attachment is the one that attaches with Magnets that are placed inside with removable tape, like those wall hangers use. That support is very adjustable, and just pulls right off. While on, it's solid. Can't remember who developed it.


That's a great support. Developed by Kris Barnett, now owned by Sageworks.

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Yeah the magnet ones are the best I have come across for some sort of leg support system and you can have multiple guitars too with jsut another set of magnets.



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