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dofthesea

Post subject: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:32 pm

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Hello, Im pretty sure I purchased this off someone on this forum. Can anyone tell me what wood this is? And if you recognize it as the seller please PM me the details. thanks

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Chris Pile

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:18 pm

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What wood?

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Ken Lewis

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:26 pm

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That's Invisible wood, yep!:)

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dofthesea

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:06 pm

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And I keep wondering why I haven't gotten. response after 75 views lol

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DennisK

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:34 pm

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Looks like the Indonesian rosewood that Allied was selling some years back. Not sure if they ever said the actual species name.

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Chris Pile

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:00 pm

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I see it now! However - I can't ID the wood.

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bcombs510

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:13 pm

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Looks like the Indonesian rosewood to me too. I have a set, it turned into a potato chip.

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Colin North

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:55 am

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dofthesea wrote:

And I keep wondering why I haven't gotten. response after 75 views lol

Thought you'd get there eventually.

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TRein

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:34 am

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If it is very non-porous and somewhat hydrophobic my vote would be goncalo alves.

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A.Hix

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:14 am

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Indonesian rosewood

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Marcus

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:19 pm

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It does look a bit like Indo RW, your picture is pretty warm tho, so it's tough to pick out all the colors. It could also be Pau Ferro/Bolivian RW. Attached is an Indonesian RW I got from Lance, I believe he got it from Allied.

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dofthesea

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:32 pm

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Ok its confirmed its indo rosewood and Im 99% sure I got it from lance and yes it turned into a potato chip. So I'll prob use it as an Ukulele set rather then guitar.

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bcombs510

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:47 pm

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dofthesea wrote:

Ok its confirmed its indo rosewood and Im 99% sure I got it from lance and yes it turned into a potato chip. So I'll prob use it as an Ukulele set rather then guitar.

Sorry to hear that and also it's good to know! I didn't know if it was my wood storage room or setup or what. Mine isn't usable at all really. I could cut the sides into binding or headplates. That's about it.

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wbergman

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:25 pm

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There have been threads before on flattening wood.

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Clay S.

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:32 pm

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wbergman wrote:

There have been threads before on flattening wood.

Another possibility might be to laminate it to another piece of wood.

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Ernie Kleinman

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:58 am

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Following what clay said, H. mahog veneer is not expensive, stable . and an exc, tonewood. Sometimes I use patio stones from walmart stacked 4 high each half side with 1/4in plywood on the bottom to laminate . Cheap an effective. Works at above 70 deg F

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bcombs510

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:07 am

Brazilian Rosewood

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Thanks for the suggestions. For my set I’ve tried a number of flattening techniques, but none really helped. It is the back plates which are twisted, the sides are workable. I’m not likely going to make a laminated back, but never say never.

It’s a shame too because it is a beautiful set.

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banjopicks

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:35 am

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Is it even necessary to flatten it? Once the braces are on and it's attached to the rim, I doubt there would be a problem.

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Clay S.

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:21 am

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bcombs510 wrote:

It’s a shame too because it is a beautiful set.

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"Twisted" is usually a little easier to work with than "cupped". If you can untwist the plates by hand then bracing can help them hold their shape. Depending on how you layout the work you can often cut out some of the twist by joining the least twisted edges and putting the area of greatest twist to the outside of the (narrower) upper bout. David's idea of using it for smaller instruments is also a good way to go. Sometimes we lose site of the fact that not everything has to become a guitar.

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jfmckenna

Post subject: Re: Wood ID

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:45 am

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I would think flattening as best as possible and then bracing would be good enough too.

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