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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:39 pm 
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https://youtu.be/iphJwCNbNSI


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:45 pm 
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meddlingfool wrote:
https://youtu.be/iphJwCNbNSI

Really cool ... but i kept thinking
“I wonder if he turns the lights on when he’s not being filmed”


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:09 pm 
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I watched that one just this morning , and thought about posting it.
And then I saw this one on making a cello:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeX-FpAM-1I
which then lead to this one about a lute maker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLTQMnOBEGo&t=624s
And then thought I better finish my coffee and go do something....


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:03 pm 
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Fun to watch someone who knows what they're doing.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:04 pm 
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SnowManSnow wrote:
Really cool ... but i kept thinking
“I wonder if he turns the lights on when he’s not being filmed”

Probably not. I work in similar conditions most of the time. Some things like inlay routing need a second light source or too much of the work area is in the shadow of the bit, but for a lot of things the sharp shadows are helpful. Especially French polishing, where the surface needs to be kept free of dust particles. I can't see them at all when the sun is up, but at night with one light bulb they're plainly visible.



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:05 am 
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Sometimes my stuff looks better with the lights turned off. gaah laughing6-hehe



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:45 am 
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It's like watching me work; but with skill! I found a few more ideas. I like the blocks even with the form on the belly side. Better for my eyes than having both up in the air. You can only put linings on one side, but you have more room to trim them.

But I just use an eggbeater drill for some things, that bow drill is too archaic even for me! My fret saw works for the outline, but it IS too small for guitars. A bow saw is one thing; but that one is gigantic.

And I like to work in the light.

A reminder that sharp tools are better.


It looked like plain varnish on bare wood. That's easy; if it really works.

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Thanks for sharing, Ed. I enjoyed that !!!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:37 pm 
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I use a lot of hand tools in my building, but I learned a lot - the sizzling water on the bending iron, the shaped piece of wood as a backer on the iron, the simple $15 plane, the wood handle clamped to the side of the plane for shooting, the rubbed glue joint for the plates. his accuracy with a frame saw, not just hand tools,but a minimum number of them, like Wayne Henderson he uses a knife a lot, the small amount of glue he used to fasten the back and top - and the seeming lack of concern over the time it is taking, the Japanese saw, bare minimum marks to make a neck, and the length of time to clamp the fretboard with a rope using hide glue and the seeming casual look of it all, and the lack of sandpaper until the very end. And the shop is so quiet.

What was the tool her used after the gramil and before the narrow chisel?

Thanks so much for posting this

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I think the name of the tool is a grammel...


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:39 pm 
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I think the tool he used after the gramil was a violin makers knife with the blade mostly retracted (an unusual feature) You can catch a glimpse at 9:36. It looked like he was using a graver as a picker after that.

Here is another video where they do something similar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aubta7Feqp4


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:29 pm 
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meddlingfool wrote:
https://youtu.be/iphJwCNbNSI

At about 4:30 what is that clamped to his shooting plane?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:40 pm 
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I think it is just a block of wood as Ed mentioned. Having it clamped instead of permanently mounted still allows the plane to be used normally. An easy "hack" we all might find handy.


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It was quite pleasant to watch and hear the wood changing form...


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Watched the entire clip. Can't recall when I've enjoyed a video more. Thanks Ed.

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Watched the entire clip. Can't recall when I've enjoyed a video more. Thanks Ed.

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Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.



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Very nice, thank you

Work flow is quite different from what we use for guitars. Purfling before attaching the top and back?

Loved the huge fishtail gouge used for profiling the plates and the plethora of spool clamps.

The man clearly has some skills. Not sure I would want to work in a shop with such dramatic lighting


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Beautiful video. I picked up some great tips. Why didn't i think of that??


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windsurfer wrote:
Very nice, thank you

Work flow is quite different from what we use for guitars. Purfling before attaching the top and back?

Loved the huge fishtail gouge used for profiling the plates and the plethora of spool clamps.

The man clearly has some skills. Not sure I would want to work in a shop with such dramatic lighting



That is the modern way. I do mine after it is glued together and the outline is trued up. Then I put in the recurve and finish the arching. I think most people want to have the plates perfect first. If you finish them when they are glued on, you can't measure tap tones, check mode patterns, all the scientific stuff.

I am a heretic though, I rough the inside first. If you finish on the outside, doesn't the inside have to be right?

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SnowManSnow wrote:
meddlingfool wrote:
https://youtu.be/iphJwCNbNSI

Really cool ... but i kept thinking
“I wonder if he turns the lights on when he’s not being filmed”


Honestly, if I spent most of my days in a dark room like that I would be on the verge of suicide by the end of a single month. But I grew up outdoors at the beach, so maybe it's what you're used to that counts.


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Great video!

I don't use a gouge in my work, but I do use a scrub plane whenever I get the chance. The satisfaction in the feel and sound of hogging off material like that is therapeutic.

Thank you for posting this.


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