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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:02 pm 
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At this point it is more agony. Brazilian Rosewood side bending disaster. My Bad. The good part is I know what went wrong and why, and have been making positive changes to my Fox style bender. And my technique. My question to this excellent guitar building community; anyone know of a replacement side set of BRW? Help of any kind would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:34 pm 
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I am here only as a last resort. I want to keep mine, but I have sympathy, too. It might have to be a set with minor worm holes. So, I hope someone else offers a solution.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:02 pm 
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What exactly was the problem then?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:19 pm 
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jfmckenna wrote:
What exactly was the problem then?

The benders waist caul was tipped. Because the shoe was a sloppy fit in the bender. So after I bent upper and lower bouts I snugged the waist down the last quarter inch. but the side was not perpendicular to the mold at the waist. (it was up perhaps a half inch at the tops edge, less at the backs edge. Ended up with cracks cross the grain. I spent hours today rebuilding the bender to prevent this from happening in the future. Expensive lesson. Ouch.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:22 pm 
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wbergman wrote:
I am here only as a last resort. I want to keep mine, but I have sympathy, too. It might have to be a set with minor worm holes. So, I hope someone else offers a solution.

I can accept a few worm holes, since the back from the set has a few.
Thanks for the sympathy. I'll be licking this wound for a while!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:16 am 
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If you are interested in doing laminated sides from veneer I may be able to help you out. BRW comes in a lot of colors and shades so pictures of the back panels would aid in matching the set.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:49 am 
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Ah bummer, yeah I can see how that could happen.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:17 pm 
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By the way, you can still iron it flat and use it for head pieces or for ukulele backs and sides.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:29 pm 
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Can't help with the Braz, but I remember a seminar with Charles Fox at a GAL convention a while back. He was demonstrating side bending, mahogany with a cut away and - SNAP. He took the two pieces out of the bender, looked at the audience and said "that happens"


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:10 pm 
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Appreciate the sympathy. Still kicking myself for not being more focused on what was I was doing.
I’ve been considering laminating sides-
a definite advantage for a couple reasons.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:11 pm 
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Clay S. wrote:
If you are interested in doing laminated sides from veneer I may be able to help you out. BRW comes in a lot of colors and shades so pictures of the back panels would aid in matching the set.

What do you use as the inner veneer?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:14 pm 
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Clay S. wrote:
If you are interested in doing laminated sides from veneer I may be able to help you out. BRW comes in a lot of colors and shades so pictures of the back panels would aid in matching the set.

Image
Clay- this is the BRW back.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:42 pm 
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Getting a veneer and doing double sides is a great idea. You may get a better sounding guitar and become a double sides believer as fringe benefits.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:10 pm 
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Hi David,
I can look through the veneer this weekend. How long and wide do the side pieces need to be?

Generally I do 3 layers of rosewood, but many people use mahogany, walnut, or some other wood species for the inner layer.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:15 pm 
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Clay S. wrote:
Hi David,
I can look through the veneer this weekend. How long and wide do the side pieces need to be?

Generally I do 3 layers of rosewood, but many people use mahogany, walnut, or some other wood species for the inner layer.

Clay it is a Small Jumbo, 32 long, 4 1/2 at the end wedge. It will need Brazilian inside and out.
Thanks!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:05 pm 
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Hi David,
This is what I found. The pieces are approx. 3 ft X 7 1/2 inches. I will send you a PM on the particulars ( I don't know how to send pictures in a P.M.


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Dake Traphagen posted some BRW in the classifieds a while back.

I suspect he still has some - you can email him if you're still looking.

He was listing sets but he may have orphans.

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