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 Post subject: Re: Side dot jig....
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:44 pm 
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bcombs510 wrote:
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Something about "over-jigging" never did appeal to me.


Agreed, Hans. My wife continually says “it’s supposed to be handmade” to get me off of obsessing over ridiculous details that no-one cares about in the end. :)

I spent some time recently thinking about what gets the most eye ball time on a guitar. Once the initial infatuation is over and the player stops marveling at the soundboard, rosette, inlays, etc... what are they stuck looking at? The side dots, side sound port (if there is one), the binding and purfling, etc... What else?

For me, with the side dots... a screw up is such a tremendous amount of work to fix for such a little process. I’m not confident like you folks that I won’t blow it. ;)


I like your wife's thinking. I'm probably one of the only ones around here that thinks like that too. Most are too preoccupied with razor sharp perfection like Marvin, Collings, Olsen, etc.
I'm stuck in 1915 with Orville. A little "wobble" here or there is not the end of the world.
Here's an F5C with the tortoise dots touching the black line of the purfling...yes, folks they are supposed to touch the line. Notice the 15th fret dot is just shy of touching...big deal.

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What do guitar players see while they are playing? I would guess most bluegrass standup players see the mic, audience. For us "sit down" players, binding, purfling, strings, rosette, idunno .
Personally, I like to watch my finners and marvel that I can still make them move...
Getting the confidence? Practice, practice, practice.


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 Post subject: Re: Side dot jig....
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Seems like I can't find a 2mm brad point bit anywhere...


Same here. The set of brad points that I have goes down to 1mm but the brad point stops as the 3mm bit. If you find a 2 or 2.5, please share!

I use my .093” downcut inlay bit, in the drill press. The “play” is because of the crappy drill press. Got a new one since.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khjwDs8oOpc


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Aaron O wrote:
bcombs510 wrote:
sdsollod wrote:
Seems like I can't find a 2mm brad point bit anywhere...


Same here. The set of brad points that I have goes down to 1mm but the brad point stops as the 3mm bit. If you find a 2 or 2.5, please share!

I use my .093” downcut inlay bit, in the drill press. The “play” is because of the crappy drill press. Got a new one since.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khjwDs8oOpc

I got my 2 mm brad points from Bosch, hex shank

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Ok This is interesting...

Pop rivets?? do you just , well drill and Pop rivet? i would have thought the pressure might split something????

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A few years back I spent a lot of time on making a jig that was perfect for a specific scale. Then I got really bored with working in large batches. It's just not for me.

Like the others, I do it by hand. Though I also do it almost all by eye. The distance between the frets I "split" and mark a vertical pencil line. That line, I split by eye, mark with whatever is handy - a brad, a nail, then drill with a 1.5mm bit. If I'm using pearl, it's a 1.5mm dot which looks very neat. Or if it's for export, I use a pop rivet, snip it off, sand it smooth and tap it flush. I "borrowed" that trick from Marty Jacobson, the mandolin maker. saw it on his blog or on a video. I forget. Clever feller Marty.

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You don't "pop rivet" anything. You just use the rivets as dot material.

The only pics I have are for the fretboard surface itself, but you get the idea. File the dot surface smooth, then tap flush, rather than trying to smooth after it is flush.

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