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 Post subject: What's this wood?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:25 pm 
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Hi Guys and Gals,

I was given some wood by a late friend (dang melanoma!). His dad was a merchant marine captain in the 60s and 70s mostly in the western pacific. I think most of it is Red Meranti, 1" x 16" x 16'. These pics came from a 6" x 6" x 6' beam that i sliced up diagionally to get some back and sides. Can't identify it in the wood database. What do you think it is?


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 Post subject: Re: What's this wood?
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Looks like Red Meranti to me.

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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If it washed up on shore it might be Natalie Wood.......



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If it washed up on shore it might be Natalie Wood.......


Showing your age. :)



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 Post subject: Re: What's this wood?
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Well it isn't red. Definitely yellow in color

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The "while we're at it" wood looks like QS white oak.

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Alex. Excuse my ignorance. QS doesn"t mean quartersawn, does it?


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Yellow Meranti.

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 Post subject: Re: What's this wood?
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Alex. Excuse my ignorance. QS doesn"t mean quartersawn, does it?


Yes, quarter sawn, CarlD. The left side of the board looks on quarter, and then goes off quarter to rift,and then to flat. I could, as usual, be wrong about the species, but the end grain looks like white oak.

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CarlD wrote:
Well it isn't red. Definitely yellow in color

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First two pics are definitely some form of "mahogany". I'd guess an African Mahogany.
Bottom two photos look like Oak to me.

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afromosia,if super light okoume. The afromosia has a very distinctive smell when sanded or cut (spicy) the okoume does not


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Well I got results back from the US Forest Service, Forest Products Laboratory, on samples of two of the pictured wood. It was Narra (PTEROCARPUS SP. CF. INDICUS) and Red Meranti (SHOREA SP.). The wood ID service is 3 ID's per year for free. I followed the instructions at https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/research/cent ... tsheet.php. Took 2 months. The Narra is a suprise, the Meranti expected, but dzsmith had my hopes up for a while......
I'm working on the second parlor guitar out of the Narra (back, sides, neck and binding). They're for grandsons. Been a bit of a fight. It doesn't like to stay bent and it chips, cracks and has pores bigger than mine (epoxy filler shows up on the inside). The completed one does look and sounds great though.


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 Post subject: Re: What's this wood?
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That's a pretty cool service for them to offer!

I like narra for back and sides quite a bit, though the sets I've used were cut very well for guitar...


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Carl, I can't get your link to work.


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Apparently the url had been changed. I edited it above. Here it is again...https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/research/cent ... tsheet.php.


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I'd rather have a tax break, but COOL!

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