Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:50 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Same rules apply to all forums at the Luthiers Forum.




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:14 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
I am just wondering how many of you have built an ukulele with x bracing? I have built 2 tenor ukuleles (fan bracing) and my third (x braced) is in the finishing room.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:57 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:20 am
Posts: 376
Location: Kapolei HI
First name: Aaron
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Only my Tiples have an X-brace. As I understand, Martin did this at the turn of last century, and eventually copied Nunes'.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:06 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:36 pm
Posts: 159
First name: Ed
Last Name: Miller
City: Wood Dale
State: Illinois
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
It should change the sound but there's only one way to find out. I'd be interested in hearing it. Any pics or notes about the X brace ?? I'm building my second tenor from Hana Lima 'la plans with tradition fan braces.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:32 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
edstrummer wrote:
It should change the sound but there's only one way to find out. I'd be interested in hearing it. Any pics or notes about the X brace ?? I'm building my second tenor from Hana Lima 'la plans with tradition fan braces.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The bracing looks a little crooked in the pic but it's not that bad, funky angle I guess.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:24 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:20 am
Posts: 376
Location: Kapolei HI
First name: Aaron
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
That looks about how I brace my Tiples, with 10 Steel strings.

I'd consider stringing yours with steel as well, just so the tension can move the soundboard. My opinion. Caveat, I don't really care for steel string ukulele, the ones that I've heard anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:26 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:44 pm
Posts: 471
Location: Australia
First name: Allen
Last Name: McFarlen
City: Mt. Sheridan
State: Qld.
Zip/Postal Code: 4868
Country: Australia
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
I agree with Aaron. That instrument looks to be extremely overbuilt for nylon strings.

_________________
Allen R. McFarlen
Barron River Guitars & Ukuleles
Facebook
Cairns, Australia


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:57 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:22 pm
Posts: 88
First name: doug
Last Name: powdrell
City: hilo
State: big island
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
After building approx 15 fan braced, I've now moved over to X bracing on all my tenor ukes...simple X, not much else...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:56 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:20 am
Posts: 376
Location: Kapolei HI
First name: Aaron
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Actually Tim, I'll need to change my suggestion. The bracing is setup for a Tiple. Assuming that's a Spruce top, I'd throw 10 strings on it. If you're concerned, do a thicker bridge with a shallower break angle, with bridge pins.

Here's a thread in the Underground you may find interesting:
http://forum.ukuleleunderground.com/sho ... tion/page2

And I have a few tiple vids I can link, if you're interested.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:03 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
Allen McFarlen wrote:
I agree with Aaron. That instrument looks to be extremely overbuilt for nylon strings.

Well it was an experiment so I'll find out soon enough - its curing in the spray booth.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:05 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
It's complete and despite some of your concerns it is quite loud. I have a friend that is a very good uke player and he agrees. We tested it to his loudest and it held its own. Perhaps it is the torrefied top that helps with the volume. Anyway, I'm pleased with the end result.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC



These users thanked the author Ben-Had for the post: bcombs510 (Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:24 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:25 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:21 am
Posts: 3592
First name: Brad
Last Name: Combs
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Looks great! What's the finish?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

_________________
Insta - https://www.instagram.com/cbcguitars/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cbcguitars


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:52 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
bcombs510 wrote:
Looks great! What's the finish?

Thanks. It's nitro, gloss top and satin on the rest. Torrefied sitka top (and bracing), Honduran mahogany b/s, ivoroid binding, grover tuners, abalone inlay, Aquila Low G nyglut strings.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC



These users thanked the author Ben-Had for the post: bcombs510 (Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:53 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:09 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:36 pm
Posts: 159
First name: Ed
Last Name: Miller
City: Wood Dale
State: Illinois
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Nice job, Tim. I'm very impressed and glad X brace worked out.



Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk



These users thanked the author edstrummer for the post: Ben-Had (Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:27 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:32 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:36 pm
Posts: 159
First name: Ed
Last Name: Miller
City: Wood Dale
State: Illinois
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Is the bracing as heavy as it looks? Hard to tell from pics. I would love to try the X on my next project. Another tenor.
Ed

Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:00 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
edstrummer wrote:
Is the bracing as heavy as it looks? Hard to tell from pics. I would love to try the X on my next project. Another tenor.
Ed

Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk

No. I think it looks heavier because it looks like a small guitar in the pic (matter of perspective). I cut them the same size as the fan braces would have been. Took the dimensions off the template I had (Waldron Music).

EDIT: I should add in case one can't tell, the braces are scalloped.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC



These users thanked the author Ben-Had for the post: bcombs510 (Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:45 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:22 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:25 pm
Posts: 341
Location: Bozeman, MT
First name: Tony
Last Name: Thatcher
City: Bozeman
State: MT
Lovely looking instrument. I'm about to dive into a baritone for a band mate. I think he'll like the clean look of yours. Is that Ivoroid binding and end graft?

_________________
Tony Thatcher
Bozeman, Montana


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: X Braced Ukulele
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:00 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 268
Location: Creedmoor, NC
First name: Tim
Last Name: Benware
City: Creedmoor
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 27522
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
mountain whimsy wrote:
Is that Ivoroid binding and end graft?

Thanks and yes it is.

_________________
"I've been had again"
Tim Benware
Creedmoor, NC


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 33 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com