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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:07 pm 
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Wes McMillian wrote:
If you already have a convex dish, as you said, mount it on something that goes roundy-round. Disc sander, drill press..........


I thought of this but it's easier said than done. With the RPM that a disc sander has, unless the radiused board is perfectly centered (and I mean "perfectly"), you're in for some heavy vibrations. And although the RPMs on a drill press are slower, the problem remains. Chances are I'd be trying to sand a bridge on a flapping board!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:27 pm 
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Love it Arie, I now have a use for the old potters wheel that my wife wanted me to throw out! I knew there was a good reason for hoarding it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:33 pm 
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Just a thought, but why couldn't you make something along the same lines to where the bridge is fixed and the radius guides are reversed to make the proper arch and you simply route the bridge to the radius.

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A collar on the spindle sander, 60 grit. I think to avoid needing a backer, you can do the curve on the bottom first, then all subsequent shaping jigs need the shape to match the bottom.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 am 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
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Ebony or BRW...and i do enough repair work to have done my share of longer bridges...key is decent abrasive and an insert to place in saddle slot...


Saddle slot insert to hold the bridge while sanding? Great idea, I never thought of it! Will try on the next one ....

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I have a 2 1/2" x 2" x 12" block with a 15' radius on one side and a 25' radius on the other. Very easy to make by cutting close with the band saw and finishing off in a radius dish. 80 grit Mirka is stuck to each side. Usually, I am sanding the radius into the bridge blank before I put in the bridge slot. So, I use a 2" x 4" piece of 3/4" plywood with 2 small dowels exposed that will fit into bridge pin holes. This gives you a great handle to hold onto the bridge/bridge blank without sanding off the finger tips. Never takes more than 2 or 3 minutes to sand the radius into the bridge so I've not seen the need for machinery to do this. Kinda like fishing for bream with dynamite.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:37 am 
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Kevin Waldron wrote:
Just a thought, but why couldn't you make something along the same lines to where the bridge is fixed and the radius guides are reversed to make the proper arch and you simply route the bridge to the radius.

That's what I initially had in mind, but unless I have a dedicated router for this, it would take more time to setup the jig than to sand manually. So it would sort of defeat the purpose.

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A collar on the spindle sander, 60 grit. I think to avoid needing a backer, you can do the curve on the bottom first, then all subsequent shaping jigs need the shape to match the bottom.

Hey Robert, thanks. That's also a plan. And indeed I planned on putting the radius first, and then shaping the bridge. This is how I do it when sanding manually anyway.

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Never takes more than 2 or 3 minutes to sand the radius into the bridge so I've not seen the need for machinery to do this. Kinda like fishing for bream with dynamite.

Like I previously pointed out, for small steel string bridges, hand sanding works fast. It's the extra 1 1/4" that I hate. It makes you remove much more material.

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That simple collar on the spindle sander was made for the operation shown, but has found many other uses. A great way to shape without any tear out on anything, and setup is just drop the throat plate in.

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Filippo,

Think that you would have to make a caul for every style bridge. Your radius I'd think would remain constant for most instruments, and I don't think that you would have that many different bridges, even with our cnc files we probably don't have over 20 total.......

For a caul you can use wax paper and canned urethane foam insulation ( Lowes, Home Depot ) held in a clamp while it dries.

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I do it the old fashioned way like you guys. When building one guitar per year it's just not that big a deal. Scraper, then sand paper on the guitar.

But . . . . my mentor has this down to a science. He's got a 1/4" board that has the top radius on one side, flat on the other side. He slips that board between the platten and underside of the belt on his belt sander, radius side up, of course.

He roughs in the shape in about 2 or 3 seconds I think, then just does a wee touch up on the actual guitar.


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Robert,

That is an excellent jig. What did you make the collar and spindle plate out of?

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phil wrote:
I do it the old fashioned way like you guys. When building one guitar per year it's just not that big a deal. Scraper, then sand paper on the guitar.

But . . . . my mentor has this down to a science. He's got a 1/4" board that has the top radius on one side, flat on the other side. He slips that board between the platten and underside of the belt on his belt sander, radius side up, of course.

He roughs in the shape in about 2 or 3 seconds I think, then just does a wee touch up on the actual guitar.


Thanks for the info Phil. 2 to 3 seconds is in my range of acceptablity. :D

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Joe Beaver wrote:
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That is an excellent jig. What did you make the collar and spindle plate out of?

The collar is the largest bronze bearing from the hardware store, set into a block, bolted to the stock plate that came with the sander. The holes to bolt the block to the throat plate are oversized a little to allow for adjustment. Good luck that the spindle with sandpaper just fit the bearing, however the offset is about .095", so undersizing templates is not as simple as using a rabbeting bit with either a 1/16 or 1/8" bite. Some day when I have a model I want to produce, I will get some templates made with the proper offset.

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Robert, Good info. I think I might just try it out.

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