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 Post subject: New build, Super Strat
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:38 pm 
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This is going to have a piezo trem, along with 3 rail pickups that will all be coil tapped, should be one of the most versatile guitars ever.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:13 pm 
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Ultra cool neck! What is that?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:23 pm 
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Curly claro walnut, very rare


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:28 am 
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If you really wanted to make it one of the most versatile guitars ever you'd do series/parallel switches for each pickup and switches to select series/parallel between pickups. You'd also have seperate outputs for each pickup.

All joking aside I reccomend you look into series/parallel switching rather than coil tapping. All the brightness without the hum. This would make it not only versatile, but a little more useful too.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:09 am 
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jimmysux wrote:
Curly claro walnut, very rare

That's what I thought, but you never know, heh heh!

verhoevenc wrote:
I agree, series/parallel is a great alternative to tapping. Even with that though... most versatile guitar ever? Curly claro walnut is very rare? The definition of a super strat...?
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Plus 1 on the series parallel option instead of coil tapping. Versatility, definitely! Claro walnut=not rare. Highly figured quartersawn curly claro walnut suitable for a neck that did not come a tree felled due to disease or something= sorta rare. Does that fit the description of this neck? I dunno, he didn't really describe it in that much detail. Super Strat definition=FAIL! Super Strats have only one pickup, the bridge pickup, and often come with a Floyd Rose trem, though not always.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:46 pm 
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Claro walnut is not rare at all, 5A flame with it however is rare, and if you can't call this strat with all the features and woods super, I don't know what else you can.
I will look at the parallel but I'm prolly gonna stick with the coil tapping. Sorry having a piezo along with the 3 rails that can be split into almost any configuration isn't versatile enough for some people, but it will be the most versatile in options of sounds I will have seen.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:06 pm 
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Don't be too overwhelmed that was no where near as bad as you were in hufschmids thread


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:51 pm 
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We've always used the term "super strat" to mean just about any strat that isn't just a standard strat and looked more aggressive. Most commonly, a super strat would have 1 humbucker in the bridge and 2 single coils in the middle and neck. That's the classic super strat. The quintessential super strat is the Jackson Soloist.

His 3 humbuckers definitely counts. 2 humbuckers would count. Even just removing the pickguard, putting on a nice top and making the horns a bit more aggressive would probably count, though you sorta' loose the essence of the whole notion.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:03 pm 
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It's okay Chris, I understand you feel slighted because I had Patrick's back in another thread where you were acting like a complete jackass and want to exact some small amount of e-revenge by acting like a jackass in this thread.
Let me say I really don't care about your thoughts and opinions, they aren't changing what I'm doing or what I'm thinking at all, and I'll continue to do what I do. I can only suggest you get over your hurt feelings as no one really cares about your spat with me.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:12 pm 
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Don't let Chris poop on your parade.

Your guitar is versatile.

Claro walnut is not rare, but I wouldn't want to make a neck out of most of it, so it's rare to find a piece like that.

If you think your Strat is Super, then it is! Doesn't matter what the word super refers to generally, it can refer to your strat specifically.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:54 pm 
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theguitarwhisperer wrote:
Don't let Chris poop on your parade.

Your guitar is versatile.

Claro walnut is not rare, but I wouldn't want to make a neck out of most of it, so it's rare to find a piece like that.

If you think your Strat is Super, then it is! Doesn't matter what the word super refers to generally, it can refer to your strat specifically.

Thanks, he isn't bothering me at all.

I haven't been able to scare up anymore of this flame walnut in the right dimensions. I would encourage you to try it in a neck though, just non figured walnut, it's very easy to work with, and has the same feel and sound as mahogany.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:05 pm 
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I've made Walnut necks before,I love them.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Lookin' good, Jimmy.
That is a nice lookin' piece of walnut there.
What's the f.b. gonna be?
I try to stay in the 3 different woods on a build idea,
so?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:18 pm 
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Thanks,
Sorry TGW, my misunderstanding. Alan, I am thinking ebony for the fretboard, as dark as I can find it.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:37 pm 
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Looks like a great start to me Jimmy.
I sure enough enjoy watching builds here so look forward to yours.

In my opinion any guitar that resembles a Strat but clearly has mods
such as a Floyd Rose, aggresive looks, more frets...etc. can be referred to as a "super Strat" being
that there is no clear definition. FWIW.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Weeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllll In MY OPINION it isnt Super unless it has a big freeekin "S" down the Middle pfft laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe Nice work . I like the look [:Y:]

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:04 pm 
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Actually, Fender did produce a model called the Super Strat. Here is a link to the service diagram for that model.
http://support.fender.com/service_diagrams/stratocaster/013-9400_02C_SISD.pdf

The previous posters are correct that it's mostly a generic term, and in fact, I believe that the Fender Super Strat was a direct response to companies like Kramer, Jackson, Charvel, etc, producing their own versions of "hot-rodded" strats.
But when i read "Super Stat" in the title, the Fender model above is the one I immediately thought of.

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"SuperPac"? sure, Colbert has been talking that up! laughing6-hehe

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:49 pm 
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Then there's this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstrat


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:40 pm 
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I was wondering when Filippo was going to come in and make a snide comment, he didn't disappoint. I understand though, you have to have your buddies back, especially in the face of overwhelming opposition, it's cool, no offense taken, it's like Chris said "people who make bogus statements tend to do so together, and often."
And if anyone doubts the validity of my claim on what I am saying now, or claimed earlier, see how many of my threads either one of them responded to before I had Patrick (Hufschmid guitars) back.

And thanks for all the kind responses, I appreciate all of you having my back, it doesn't go unnoticed or without gratitude.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:04 am 
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I still think tapping those things is kind of pointless. Just my opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:09 am 
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a "super strat" is any strat-like axe that is modified for fast '80s style shredding/metal, hot-rodded above and beyond the specs of original Fender stratocasters:
flat radius neck; 24 frets; high output pickups; a good whammy bridge for dives, ala Kahler or Floyd; a locking nut...............and to take the definition a bit farther, no pickguard, and hot/bold paintjobs.
i have the real deal: a 1988 HM "The Strat". and i hate it. looks cool though. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:41 am 
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Alright, I can't take this anymore!

super [soo-per]  
su·per   [soo-per]
noun
an article of a superior quality, grade, size, etc.

adjective
6. of the highest degree, power, etc.
7. of an extreme or excessive degree.
8. Informal . very good; first-rate; excellent.
9. (of measurement) superficial.
10. superfine.

(Jimmy, your guitar certainly fits in one of the selections above)
Strat
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Strat can refer to:
Fender Stratocaster

Let me clarify something here - Jimmy made this post of his "Super Strat"... who cares if there have been other references to that name, maybe (just maybe) Jimmy wants to call his build a "SUPER STRAT" - get over it yall, if I want to call my next guitar the Schlep Rock, who really cares? How about some good ol' fashion creative criticism, suggestions or possibly a compliment on what the guy is doing here, say "I like it" or "Really cool wood on the top there" or SOMETHING besides the 3rd grade bullying over the flippin' name.

Focus people.... let's make the forum slightly useful and possibly "inviting" for other builders - just a suggestion (Like they suggest you pull a ripcord on a parachute).

Whew, I feel better - back to my building [xx(] [clap]

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:47 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:45 am 
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Just face it Jimmy, your guitar is not so rare or special after all, and you have absolutely NO reason to be proud of it whatsoever, and you shouldn't be posting it on this forum, or even enjoying the build process, it's so unremarkable and common!

Jeez, people!

Let's just relax and enjoy our lives a little! If you don't like Jimmy or his axe just ignore it!

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