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helldunkel
 Post subject: New single cut build...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:56 am 
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Currently building this single cut, figured I would share some pictures :)

The guitar will also feature the new Schaller "Da Vinci" tuners!

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Currently the guitar is at it's fifth coat of finish :)

PS: Luminlay "SGM-23 super blue" which was normally designed for using on Maple fingerboards (because of the black surrounding) looks really awesome fitted to this Indian Rosewood fingerboard! :D

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sealer coat...
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3rd coat...
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Sweet. Those new Schallers just tickle me to death, too!

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That's pretty sweet. I really like the detail on the side markers
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verhoevenc wrote:
I would love to know how much those are and where has them already.
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The price is very very good, however I dont think that its a good thing to post dealers prices on a public forum, I find it to be of very poor taste...

I dont think that anybody carries them yet, this is very new stuff, I've ordered some 2 days ago directly from Schaller, should be receiving them in 3-4 days I suppose... Will post some pictures :)

Best is to contact directly Dr. Lars Bünning by using the contact form on schaller's website like I have, he will then send you a .pdf with the prices :)

http://schaller-electronic.com/hp306/Contact.htm

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i'm betting those clear windows on the tuners will be grimed up with metal powder/lube after a few years !
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Wow nice. The guitars pretty cool too. :) ...Mike

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verhoevenc wrote:

Good to know where the line sits. Also, good to know you got it at dealer prices and not from a retailer like you might have and could have been a logical conclusion.
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You really think that I order parts from retailers?

I'm a professional guitar builder, when I order parts, when possible, I always order them from the brands directly at the source... Why would I pay extra money and pay the retailers part of the cake?

I've been working with schaller for 16 years now.

Currently there are no DaVinci tuner retailers/luthiers supplier which sell them, its new stuff, this is why you currently have to order them directly from the brand...

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Trying to capture the finish I've just achieved after spending the last week applying the 10 coats...

I just finished carefully buffing it all out to a satin look!

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Patrick!
This is a solid lookin' axe bro - LOVE the Da Vinci's as well and my guess is that they will look sweet for years to come - I went to their site and saw some aged copper ones I may want to get down the road... keep em' comin!

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Patrick!
This is a solid lookin' axe bro - LOVE the Da Vinci's as well and my guess is that they will look sweet for years to come - I went to their site and saw some aged copper ones I may want to get down the road... keep em' comin!


vintage cooper is really cool, but I would have to use a vintage cooper bridge as well to match and I only use Hipshot bridges...


verhoevenc wrote:
No, when thinking of it, I don't imagine you do buy from retailers. That said, chiding someone and implying that what they were asking for is of poor taste simply because they don't know your life story... that I think it's a little presumptive and odd. But to each their own. But like I said, good to know where Pat H. draws the line on good taste.
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You clearly totally misunderstood my first comment and are being quite aggressive, I must say...

Where did I accuse anybody and was chiding someone implying that asking for the prices is of poor taste?

If you did read correctly my post you would read this:

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I dont think that its a good thing to post dealers prices on a public forum, I find it to be of very poor taste...


= talking in general, not accusing anybody...

Can you now please tell me who I was accusing and chiding please? :)

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I for one love the hufschmid build threads, each and everyone. They keep the forum active, and they're nice to look at. I want some of the da vinci tuners too, but if he doesn't want to tell his price, he just doesn't want to. I don't think you have any right to insult his threads or his designs, your designs are typically copies of myka designs, and speaking of builds and teaching, I don't recall seeing you post a teaching build lately.
Suffice to say, your little pissy attitude is running it's course, if you don't like it, don't click on it.
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verhoevenc wrote:
Downright accusing? No one. But if you say "very poor taste" there's an obvious connection to thinking someone asking for this 'poor taste' information would be in poor taste.
My main beef is you seem to use this forum as a marketing tool. Which baffles me since we don't buy guitars... We build them. So it comes down to you build a LOT of guitars with quick turnover and it seems we see a thread for EACH one, they're more often than not VERY similar too. And to boot, they don't really teach anything either. So we get a bi-weekly thread of the same guitar made of sapele, with MAYBE a top laminate, and a routed bevel...
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Thank you for your very constructive comment, I am so sorry that you do not like my instrument and all the informative topics I have posted showing how I build guitars to potentially help people who are looking for information or the ones who keep sending me emails everyday about how I build my instruments...

I build 10 guitars every year, like it or not I make a living building guitars and you simply can not live if you build 5 guitars every year unless you live in a very poor country.... ;) (indeed 80 hours is very FAST for building a solid body electric guitar)

You really are very aggressive, I wonder what I have done to you :) and now you are trying to invent things to prevent making you feel stupid, so on my side, I will stop feeding you since you are quite obvioussly a troll... :)

Also yeah, it makes sens to use a luthiers forum as a marketing tool because we all know that luthiers sell guitars to luthiers... laughing6-hehe

care to continue trolling me? I would love that :)

jimmysux wrote:
I for one love the hufschmid build threads, each and everyone. They keep the forum active, and they're nice to look at. I want some of the da vinci tuners too, but if he doesn't want to tell his price, he just doesn't want to. I don't think you have any right to insult his threads or his designs, your designs are typically copies of myka designs, and speaking of builds and teaching, I don't recall seeing you post a teaching build lately.
Suffice to say, your little pissy attitude is running it's course, if you don't like it, don't click on it.


thank you, I appreciate :)

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Yes, my designs are highly influenced. I wouldn't say copies, but yes, definitely influenced. And no, I haven't posted a HELP thread lately. I've been busy. But I've done a TON in the past, videos included.
Secondly, I'll say whatever I want, he can argue it if needed. But when someone has a company where they regularly produce very similar models one after the other, do we really need to see them ALL? Why not join in the weekly threads? Do ALL his builds need a thread when they are highly repetitive. Nice or not.

Also pat, read. I said it was odd that you post so much of the same stuff that it SEEMS like you use it as one. It was a comment, not saying you DO use it AS one. Also, I ne'er said I don't like your instruments. I said they all use the same techniques over and over. Do we really need to see the same steps time and again?
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a company? I dont own any companies, I am 1 person who builds guitars in my little 5 square meters wine cellar and Hufschmid is my last name, sorry that I've achieved bothering you so much in your life for building guitars :)

What IS of poor taste is slamming down the designs and creations of somebody who does the same activity as you... You are currently doing a great job at that [clap]

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A company is a business organization. It is an association or collection of individual real persons and/or other companies, who each provide some form of capital. This group has a common purpose or focus and an aim of gaining profits. This collection, group or association of persons can be made to exist in law and then a company is itself considered a "legal person". The name company arose because, at least originally, it represented or was owned by more than one real or legal person.



you may also want to read the forum rules:

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Cool build, very crisp looking! Would be nice to see some in progress photos if you have any. I am new to the forum but it is about building I suppose! :D

It would be nice, however, to know whether these new schallers are available to us 'mere mortals' yet! Bit confused about how asking about it is in poor taste idunno but anyway, nice build. Is there any stain on the sapele?
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Bit confused about how asking about it is in poor taste idunno


posting dealers prices.....

have you ever seen anybody post dealers prices on any internet forum?

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anthonyferguson wrote:
Bit confused about how asking about it is in poor taste idunno


posting dealers prices.....

have you ever seen anybody post dealers prices on any internet forum?


I can't say I have, but then he wasn't to know where you sourced the parts. I think he was asking more about their actual availability. I appear to have hit a nerve, I do apologise!!
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hufschmid wrote:
anthonyferguson wrote:
Bit confused about how asking about it is in poor taste idunno


posting dealers prices.....

have you ever seen anybody post dealers prices on any internet forum?


I can't say I have, but then he wasn't to know where you sourced the parts. I think he was asking more about their actual availability. I appear to have hit a nerve, I do apologise!!


but you have read my reply have you? :)

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I would love to know how much those are and where has them already.
Chris


The price is very very good, however I dont think that its a good thing to post dealers prices on a public forum, I find it to be of very poor taste...

I dont think that anybody carries them yet, this is very new stuff, I've ordered some 2 days ago directly from Schaller, should be receiving them in 3-4 days I suppose... Will post some pictures :)

Best is to contact directly Dr. Lars Bünning by using the contact form on schaller's website like I have, he will then send you a .pdf with the prices :)

http://schaller-electronic.com/hp306/Contact.htm


so basically I get slammed because I tell somebody that I will not post dealers prices because I find it to be of very poor tase, then I tell him to contact schaller directly... right [:Y:] and this caused all of this negativity and being treated as a spammer for posting build threads :)

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but you have read my reply have you? :)


A-ha! Didn't see it, sorry.
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but you have read my reply have you? :)


A-ha! Didn't see it, sorry.


also here are some detailed build threads I have posted, I dont think that any spammer would take the time to share his building techniques and post so much information...

http://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10123&t=34665
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verhoevenc wrote:
The fact people email you asking HOW you build your guitars and Anthony asking for progress pics just highlights my point that you feel more like you're marketing an end product than participating in a build forum.
Chris



oh yeah so much this is why I share so much information in those topics I post like the two link I posted in my previous post...

this is quite some amazing product spamming! wow

http://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10123&t=34665
http://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10123&t=34156

can you leave me alone now? I think we had enough of you and your negative attitude in this topic, thank you :)

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verhoevenc wrote:
If you continue to come back and argue it and not drop it yourself, well then no. Most of your points have been misreading and exaggerating things I've said. Why would I trust you to have the last word here? Lol
Also, this ain't just me. More happens in PM than people asking you for more details of your builds.
Chris



dude, watch out you've reached 2100 posts! congratulations you're da man! [:Y:] [clap]

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You aren't spamming at all, and just like you said you gave instructions on where to go for the information they desired. This is a luthier forum, and you post builds. I've enjoyed all of them and hope to see a lot more in the future. You've never once tried to sell anything in these threads and your designs are 100% original.
I also don't expect you'd really be trying to market and sell to a bunch of luthiers regardless, that's kind of like GM trying to sell cars to Ford.
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What point? That he posts builds on a luthiers forum? That you dont know where he buys from despite the fact the back of the tuners clearly say schaller, and the fact he said he bought these directly from schaller? That he makes the same type of guitar with his builds? Are you going to go to PRS, Gibson, and Fender and complain that each of their guitars is not drastically different in design and materials than the other? You've really made no viable points. You've just gotten your feathers ruffled and went off insulting someone.
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Holy crap, leave the man alone. He's not posting pics of guitars and saying, "Hey everybody, look at what I've got for sale." He's just posting pictures of what he builds. Isn't that what this forum is all about? I don't see anything in the rules that prohibits full time professionals from showing everything they build and frankly, there's not so much going on here that we need to scare people off of posting. I'd rather look at 'yet another' Hufschmidt than have this section sit idle like the resonator area. Sure it would be nice to see some jigs and technical stuff, but there's no requirement that people do that.

The MIMF killed itself over this kind of stuff, don't do it here. [headinwall]

Oh, and I've sold two guitars to other builders. ;)
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jimmysux wrote:
What point? That he posts builds on a luthiers forum? That you dont know where he buys from despite the fact the back of the tuners clearly say schaller, and the fact he said he bought these directly from schaller? That he makes the same type of guitar with his builds? Are you going to go to PRS, Gibson, and Fender and complain that each of their guitars is not drastically different in design and materials than the other? You've really made no viable points. You've just gotten your feathers ruffled and went off insulting someone.


Forget about him, he is not worth it, the admin is now taking care about the issue this person seams to have with me :)

I will continue posting pictures of my builds and building techniques as I keep building them and will also post updates in this topic as soon as I have some and maybe this time, that person will stay out of this topic :)

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