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Back when I was in elementary school we used three different types of glue. Basic white paste, Elmer's white glue and a clearish amber colored glue that was in a glass bottle with a slit natural rubber applicator on top. Back then this glues was used to glue paper to paper. Often used to seal envelops as pre glued envelopes were not that common at that time and also to attach labels to boxes.

Anyway what I recall that amber glue reminds me of HG/urea glue. Some what like Franklin's Liquid HG but very much lighter viscosity. What was this glue? A HG/urea blend? Does anyone know if it is still manufactured anymore?

I was looking for some at a Office Depot the other day, figuring if it is still made that is where I would most likely find it locally but with no luck.

The reason I want some is I found an old label buttering reservoir used to add this type of glue to paper labels . The reservoir and the buttering wheel is made of polished marble. I was thinking this would be great for makers labels

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Rubber cement?

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Steve Walden
Aspiring Builder,
Bartlesville, OK

No this is a very thin glue.

"Le Page's" Mucilage in the funny bottle with the rubber applicator tip. It's a kind of fish glue.

Mucilage?

http://www.amazon.com/Ross-Mucilage-3oz-Bottle/dp/B000931O9E

http://www.misterart.com/store/view.cfm?store=001&group_id=1807

http://www.pwam.org/rocketclub/education/glueguide.htm

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Mitch

I remember that stuff, but I can't remember exactly what it was. Would liquid hide glue work in your dispenser? If you are only using it for labels, I'm sure there's be no problems with it.

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Joe Breault
Merrimack, NH
Perpetual novice

Cool Mitch thats it

Just way to high of viscosity is the only issue.

Doesn't taste as good as the white paste though.

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Horton, MI

Might have somthing to do with what I suspect the retarder is

I'd never heard of Mucilage either (but then, I'm a Brit). But I think Mario uses it for something.

I think that even remembering this glue points to our age. I knew EXACTLY what you were talking about and have wondered if this was hide glue also.

I bought some liquid hide glue from Woodmaster (made by titebond, of all people) and am intending on using some of this for a label to see how it works. I dont see why the stuff you are asking about wouldnt work also.

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Reguards,

Ken H

If anyone is curious what this stuff is. From the Columbia Encyclopedia: "mucilage , thick, glutinous substance, related to the natural gums, comprised usually of protein, polysaccharides, and uranides. It swells but does not dissolve in water. Mucilage is secreted by the seed covers of various plants, including marsh mallows and flaxes and certain seaweeds; it is the chief constituent of agar. In the plant it sometimes serves to check the loss of water to aid germination, to facilitate seed dispersal, and to store food. It is used in medicine as an emollient and a demulcent. Mucilage is employed also as an adhesive, and the term is extended to include other slimy adhesives, especially solutions of gum, such as tragacanth mucilage."

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Joe Breault
Merrimack, NH
Perpetual novice

Now that you mentioned it, I remember my grand father calling it Flax glue

How about remembering when envelops were not pre glued Now that dated me hua?

We had that in British schools, back in the 50's, as well, LePage's, well I'm blowed! We used to call it Cow Gum. Little dumpy bottles with red angled rubber top with a slit. We used to smear it down the back of the girls hair. Wasn't childhood great.

Colin

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I don't believe in anything, I simply make use of a set of reasonable working hypotheses.

Dang Colin you guys were vicious

Ken I have tried it. (By the way Franklin is Titebond) The problem is it goes on way to thick. You might try thinning it. When I used it I applied it at full strength to the back of the label the took a razor blade and drug off 90% of it. It was hard to work with out getting everywhere.

I bought a bottle of this stuff last fall. It's still available! It's still sold for use by little kids because it is non-toxic and considered edible.

Rick mentioned that it was really nothing more than fish glue, so when I saw the bottle, I had to buy it and play around. In simple glued up maple blocks tests, it beat everything else I had, even hot hide glue. Go figure....

So are you using it for anything Grumpy?

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Mitch

nah, but it was fun playing with it.

I only 41 but i remember using this in grade school to. I believe they used this stuff because it was safe and non toxic.

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Guitars, guitars and more guitars.

I'm 25 and we had it.

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Bob Garrish
Former Canonized Purveyor of Fine CNC Luthier Services

Your only aging yourself if you remember it being in glass bottles. Of course back then, so was the milk in the cafeteria........

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Don Atwood
Arlington, VA