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Happened to stumble across this link for information on requirements for all types of jobs and careers, so I looked up luthier. They didnt exactly describe luthier using that word, but they came up with a "Custom precision woodworker - musical instruments"


Thought some of you might like to have a look at what is required. You may even get a good laugh as well


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Here's an updated link. (Good info, thanks!)

Custom Precision Woodworker — Musical Instruments

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50 Multilimb Coordination
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ability to coordinate movements of two or more limbs together (for
example, two arms, two legs, or one leg and one arm) while sitting,
standing, or lying down. It does not involve performing the activities
while the body is in motion


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Hey, I can do that!








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Hmmmm, I didn't see anything about chewing gum in there.  I can walk, and I can chew gum, but when they are together, there is questionable dexterity.    And what do guitar builders do that requires the use of one leg and one arm while lying down?  I really want to know. 

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That may be the most unhelpful assembly of useless information I have ever seen.


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[QUOTE=Kelby]That may be the most unhelpful assembly of useless information I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]


Obviously a politician wrote it !



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[QUOTE=WaddyT]   And what do guitar builders do that requires the use of one leg and one arm while lying down?  I really want to know. 
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Well, if you REALLY want to know, it's one of the methods to make a longer scale neck on a finished instrument...you lie down on the floor, put one foot into the soundhole, wrap one arm around the headstock (in a headlock?) and you stretch the silly thing out until you get the desired scale length. An optional assist is to take the one free arm and grab onto something stationary for added leverage. Oh, and you lie down so as to not fall over while attempting this while standing on the one remaining leg, thereby ruining a perfectly good instrument!

I thought this would be intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer, much less a "seasoned" luthier.

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Stop pulling his leg, Hank.

It's for when you've cut an arm and leg off in your unisaw, and so you need to use the remaining arm and leg to drag yourself to the phone and dial 911. Did that last week, and ooohhh did it sting!

And that's the second time I've done that, you'd think I'd have learned the first time. But anyhoo, the typing with a straw in my mouth thing is working out for me.



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Well, it was a newbie question anyway. 

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[QUOTE=rlabbe] Stop pulling his leg, Hank.

It's for when you've cut an arm and leg off in your unisaw, and so you need to use the remaining arm and leg to drag yourself to the phone and dial 911. Did that last week, and ooohhh did it sting!

And that's the second time I've done that, you'd think I'd have learned the first time. But anyhoo, the typing with a straw in my mouth thing is working out for me.

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Reminds me of a scene out of Monty Python!
But look at the positive side...you won't ever do THAT again!

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It didn't even mention beer or the ice box,whats up with that????


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[QUOTE=WaddyT] Well, it was a newbie question anyway. 
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Glad all you "young'ns" come here to get valuable insight and instruction from us old timers. Shows there is still some respect in this country for Truth, Justice and The American Way...Look, up in the sky, it's a ..............

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Age is not necessarily a measure of knowledge.  Check my profile, I may be new, but I'm definately not a "young'n"!   

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My lack of knowledge of earth formations and weaponry are what's holding me back.

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I'm OK with the weaponry thing (rusty maybe), but the earth formations thing is a real clinker.

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Y'all lost me. I'm still stuck on tryig to come up with what I can do with one arm, one leg, and lying down.

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Hey they explained that.  It was true, wasn't it? 

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ok then.... it is to call 911..


lets move on:


33 Physics
Knowledge and prediction of physical principles, laws, and applications including air, water, material dynamics, light, atomic principles, heat, electric theory, earth formations, and meteorological and related natural phenomena


I'm pretty sure this one means that one must know how many soda pops (or beers if you prefer) that one can drink before:


 A) having to make a run to the toilet and while there wonder if when it is flushed it is going to end up in the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, or Gulf of Mexico , or,


B) ripping out one of  those paint peeling flatulations that changes the atmospheric balance of the room and quite possibly ruin the finish on a perfectly good guitar.


I just wish they would come right out and say it without beating around the bush


 


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I didn't realize a strong foundation in the english languaue was so important
for lutherie. Someone really should have mentioned this to Stradivari


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[QUOTE=Hank Mauel]
Glad all you "young'ns" come here to get valuable insight and instruction from us old timers. Shows there is still some respect in this country for Truth, Justice and The American Way...Look, up in the sky, it's a ..............[/QUOTE]

Like I haven't heard that one before.


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[QUOTE=old man] My lack of knowledge of earth formations and weaponry are what's holding me back.

Ron[/QUOTE]

You see Ron, that's what I didn't realise, it's my knowledge of the Earth's formations that makes me such a gold plated guitar builder.

Now I see it, Geologist Luthier is the rank you attain above Master Luthier. I'll have to run $3500 a week courses in Structural geology for all you poor ignorant guitar builders, at least for those aspiring to greatness!

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Aahhhh, Thanks, Colin, that explains a lot. The closest I've come to combining geology with lutherie is to throw rocks at my guitars.

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[QUOTE=old man]Aahhhh, Thanks, Colin, that explains a lot. The closest I've come to combining geology with lutherie is to throw rocks at my guitars.

Ron[/QUOTE]


I knew there had to be some secret to tap tuning!



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[QUOTE=WaddyT] Age is not necessarily a measure of knowledge.  Check my profile, I may be new, but I'm definately not a "young'n"!   
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"Young'ns" was in reference to the time in luthery, not necessarily age, as you mentioned it was a "newbie" question.

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I was just bein ornery!

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