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Mike OMelia
 Post subject: Vinyl Sealer
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:48 pm 
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Is it ok to spray vinyl sealer over epoxy pore fill? I use a final wash coat of epoxy when finished with pores. Finish will be nitro.

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Clay S.
 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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I usually spray nitro directly on top of epoxy. Vinyl sealer doesn't adhere as well as nitro does to most things and has less clarity so I don't use it, but as long as the epoxy has cured (week?) it should be O.K.
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Mike OMelia
 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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How about the top ?
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Clay S.
 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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Hi Mike,
I self seal the top with nitro. It is close grained and doesn't need any pore filling and I don't use epoxy on it (sometimes epoxy fill the rosette if it is porous material)
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 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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While you do not need the sealer it won't hurt. I would use the recommended sealer for the finish from the same manufacturer.

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Mike OMelia
 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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Its Mohawk (Behlen) sealer, for the Mohawk nitro. Think I'll just spray the top. Brian, did you mean "while u don't need" ?


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Joe Beaver
 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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I have never used Mohawk nitro, I use the Cardinal LuthierLac stuff and their vinyl sealer. I always try to use finish and undercoat from the same manufacture as you have done.

The only thing I can add is with Cardinal, it bonds much better if you spray the sealer (over cured epoxy or bare wood) and then follow up in 30-60 minutes with the first top coat. I suppose my point is it is best to follow the manufacturer recommendations.

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I’ve done it without any issues over Z Poxy & over West Systems 105/207

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Freeman
 Post subject: Re: Vinyl Sealer
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I also spray it over Zpoxy with no problems
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