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Conor_Searl
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My customer brought this bass to me complaining of intonation issues, and strange tones coming out of the higher register. Other than too much relief the rest of the set up parameters seem normal. These silk wrappings sitting on the saddles can't be good for intonation or tone clarity. Am I wrong?


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I use an Exacto blade to cut the strings away enough so that it's strictly metal on metal. If the silk tries to unravel, a drop of CA will keep it tight.

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When I was doing repairs I would keep extra ball ends that came from old used strings to correct this problem. Just slip them over the string in order to space it back so the wrapping does not ride over the saddle.
Just another method!! This works for acoustic bridges on small guitars too, when the wrapping rides up over the saddle.

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BTW you aren’t wrong, it does affect the tone and intonation.

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Cal Maier wrote:
When I was doing repairs I would keep extra ball ends that came from old used strings to correct this problem. Just slip them over the string in order to space it back so the wrapping does not ride over the saddle.
Just another method!! This works for acoustic bridges on small guitars too, when the wrapping rides up over the saddle.

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BTW you aren’t wrong, it does affect the tone and intonation.


Great idea! But won't work in this case...


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Lol, oh well, someone is always trying to reinvent the wheel. It worked great with some of the more user friendly style of bridges.

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Lol, oh well, someone is always trying to reinvent the wheel. It worked great with some of the more user friendly style of bridges.


Definitely! I'm going to tuck that one away.
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Definitely! I'm going to tuck that one away.


I think Fumblefinger did that recently with a repair he undertook, and I've done it on some basses (and guitars). I keep stuff like that, just in case. Washers, and pieces of tubing work, too.

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Chris Pile wrote:
I use an Exacto blade to cut the strings away enough so that it's strictly metal on metal. If the silk tries to unravel, a drop of CA will keep it tight.

Exactly what I’ve done - also at nut end on low B strings. Then suggest the client find a different brand of string.


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Exactly what I’ve done - also at nut end on low B strings. Then suggest the client find a different brand of string.


Yup. Can't forget that sometimes we need to do that at the nut. I put CA on the silk to keep the unraveling to a minimum, too.

Unfortunately, string makers can't accommodate the specs of all instrument makers. So it falls to the luthiers to fix the problem.

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