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Tried something new , how's it look
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Lance,

   That is a great design. I like it better than both of the bevels that have
become so common lately. I love Kevin Ryan's with it seamless transitions
where it interfaces with the binding at either end, but have always loved
the graceful and interesting recurve at each end of the Lasking style bevel
and miss them a little with the move by so many to the newer, smoother
modern variation.

   Your bevel incorporates what I consider the best of both worlds, but
with a unique and artistic sensitivity that has always been typical of
McCollum guitars.

I'm sure it's even more striking in person. It's inspiring.

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Lance, You've taken the plunge many of us would love to try as well. Congratulations on a great execution of the bevel. What kind of wood is that, for some reason the bevel wood type escapes me?


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What can be said, magnificent!!

BTW, for those who craft this type of arm-rest and also include a number of sound ports; are there warning signs to prevent persons from standing too near port air exits--like 'stand back-- Danger Jet Wash"


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Lance, it looks great, do you have any other shots of it? Something that would show how it looks face on with the whole guitar?

Very nice!

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I like it better than any others i have seen.
to me, this design is less invasive to the outer area of the top, so in my mind, less tone is sacrificed for comfort.

a happy medium, nice one!

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I like it Lance. Very creative. Is that bubinga binding?


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Nice Lance! I also would like to see a wider shot to get a sense of the full effect.

Thanks for posting.

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Sweet! I like it too. It's very organic looking.

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Beautiful work Lance - thanks for posting this!


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Sweet! I'm cutting an armrest(only my second one) today, in fact, and the client and I debated which style to go with, as we like either one. As has been said, you've covered both in one swoop. Very cool!

Mind if I propose this to my client? Full credits to ya, of course!



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Thanks guys. Lance, I'll get you a full front shot today when I finish sanding the rest of the guitar.

I can't take full credit for it. I was inspired by the work of Mitsuhiro Uchida. I've posted his link here before http://www10.plala.or.jp/harp-g/Uchida-MagamookEng.htm

He's amazing and a lot of the work you see coming out of the new Japanese luthiers has started with him. Whether the will admit it or not, he did it first! Look at the dates.

I've already done a Laskin bevel and I didn't want to do the full Ryan bevel. I liked parts of both of them and the work of Uchida and that is what I came up with.

The wood is the Sapele Zoot, which hides the joint lines very well. I also found that by not having any purfling on the bottom of the binding made it a lot easier to execute.

Here is a picture of the bearing guide I came up with.


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Yeah, that rocks without a doubt.

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Lance,
Very pretty armrest! I've always liked the Ryan rest better. It looks less like someone took a bite out of the guitar. The Laskin armrest looks like an after thought. Your design definitely doesn't look like an after thought.

Grumpy,
There is another, subtle, variation on the Ryan armrest that you might consider. In the Ryan rest, the top is asymmetrical because of the bevel. You could, however, make the top symmetrical and make the body asymmetrical by extending out the lower bout of the bass side. I've never done this or seen an instrument that did. The idea just popped into my head and I thought I'd mention it before I forgot about it. Although forgetting about it may be the right thing to do.


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Cool, I'll have to follow that link later this evening!

Are you using a straight beveled cutter or a radiused one? if so, what radius? Hard to tell from the photo...


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[QUOTE=grumpy] Are you using a straight beveled cutter or a radiused one? if so, what radius? Hard to tell from the photo...
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As long as we're asking: If its a straight bevel, what angle is the bevel?


 


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Edit:


I'm asking...because your bevel looks great. I've debating which bevel to try, and I'd like to try one like yours.....


Any reason why you didn't "taper" both ends?


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Joe because then it would look like a Ryan
The cutter is 45 degreeheres a , I just rounded the edges over a little more pict
Heres the first one I did
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Lance,
I'm working on my first bevel right now. Thank you for posting this. You got me rethinking how I'm going to do mine.

How did you cut your binding ledges?


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Lance -I like your design very much!

It looks very fluid or flows from one end to the other.
And looks practical for the player also!

Great work!
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Lance, That looks great!
Thanks for posting a picture of your bearing guide. It took me a minute to figure it out, but I got it. Makes sense.

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Just took these shots for the owner, with it's first 3 coats of finish, and figured I'd share how it came out. I like how it doesn't jump out at your eyes as much, yet still keeps plenty of interest.

Won't be my last one in this style, for sure, but most likely my last in flamed maple. Arrrrgh!

thanks for sharing, Lance!





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Grumpy i like that a lot.

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WOW these are really pretty guitars. Thanks for sharing the craftsmanship and tips!


By the way Lance, I sent you a PM.


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Gorgeous Mario...and even if the maple was a pain, the results are amazing. Bravo.

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