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Hello All,

Here are some pictures of a guitar I recently completed, it's a Honduran Rosewood 000-13 fretter with a Lutz Spruce top. Thought I'd share some of the beautiful North Georgia woods with you as well.












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Nice git!
Oddly enough, I love to see a wood with such nice looking imperfections like that back has.

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Looks really good.  Is that Bloodwood in the neck lamination?  Good job.  I like the X back brace as well.


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Beautiful workmanship my friend!
Just beautiful!!!

Thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks gents....

Shawn, yes that is bloodwood in the neck with ebony in the center...Hey, you were not supposed to see that back bracing, it's top secret

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Very nice guitar Greg and great photos as well. I like that little slit of a sound port! I also like that back with the sapwood. Very Cool Guitar!
How is it sounding ??

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Greg you have done it again M8!  Beautiful guitar and I am a HUGE fan of Honduran Rosewood.

What do you think of the tone????

Your photography is very cool too as is the Georgia countryside.

Beautiful work Greg - you should be one very proud guy!





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Yes, Greg...tell us more about it, woods etc.

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Greg that looks great!
Do I see lattice bracing on the back?

Is that your back yard?

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Hi Steve, Yes it's my back yard, beautiful this time of the year! The back bracing is something of a hybrid I came up with that is neither lattice nor "x" brace, I was trying to get the Honduran Rosewood to loosen up a bit, it was a very heavy/stiff plate.

What does it sound like...well, I think it is very nice, it has similarities to the Blackwood guitar I completed recently, but yet has it's own voice that's for sure. I'll be posting sound clips of this guitar later this week, they'll be the same tunes recorded in the same fashion as the Blackwood guitar so it will be an interesting comparison as the guitars are nearly identical except for the B&S wood.....same shape/size, same brace patterns, top wood from the same billet, top thickness/stiffness nearly identical, same neck blank..etc...The owner of the Blackwood guitar came over today and we played these two guitars next to one another, it was very interesting for sure. I'm very curious to hear what everyone here will think about the tonal differences, should be a fun experiment.

This guitar is a 000-13 fretter, Honduran Rosewood over Lutz Spruce, the headplate veneers, rosette and tail wedge are Madagascar Rosewood. The neck is mahogany with bloodwood and ebony laminates. The back is braced with mahogany.

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Awesome Greg. A beauty
I cannot wait to here the clips. So you used a hybrid bracing on the back.
Any picts of the back bracing. Neither lattice or X, but it looks crossed with
the little peak we had.

Acoustically do you feel and hear the contribution of the back???

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I did use KTM-9 again, I stripped the back and top as I had some issues the first go-round....the 2nd time worked out fine, not sure what happened with the first application.

Andy, I know you are not going to believe this, but I don't have any pics of the bracing, I just plain forgot to take shots of this one. Yeah, there is some crossing going on on the back bracing, and some that is not crossing....hey, it's nothing new, it's all been tried before. I tried to get the back involved in the action, it's pretty darn stiff though so I'm not so sure of it's contribution, short of a reflector...the Blackwood guitar has a more active back that's for sure.

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Would love an explaination of the 13 fret 000 or others.
Why 13 frets?
Pros and cons on 13 fret?
What scale length do you use with 13 fret?
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Hi Bob,

I chose to use a 13 fret layout on this particular body size/shape because it places the bridge just where I want it, honestly I'm not sure it makes any difference in the sound, but in my mind it makes sense so I continue to make them this way.....I'm using a 25.4" scale length on this model. FWIW, all of these 13 fretters have sounded really good.

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That honduras rosewood is beautyful i love the pin knots that give it that
flamed look.
Thats a real example of embracing a defect and useing it as a feature on
the guitar,lovely.
Thants very nice work greg.

Btw do you know if that that honduras is dalbergia stevensoni or
tucerensis becouse it looks very much like tucerensis to me (allthough
they can both look identical to each other).
it matches beautyfully with the mad rose and the mahogany in the neck
very nice.

I also like the long thin oval sound port did you have any structral/aoustic
reason for making it thius shape.

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[QUOTE=bob J] Would love an explaination of the 13 fret 000 or others.
Why 13 frets?
Pros and cons on 13 fret?
What scale length do you use with 13 fret?
Thanks[/QUOTE]

Bob,

You might find this an interesting read.

Gregg,

Another lovely guitar. I'm looking forward to listening to the soundclips.

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Great looking guitar, Greg! Everything looks great, especially the back. Keep it up.

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Hi Greg,

That is one very beautiful guitar you’ve built!

I’m starting to really appreciate these laminated necks, and your choice of ebony and bloodwood
is an excellent one! A very nice contrast to the Honduran Rosewood!

Can’t tell for sure, but it looks like you veneered both front and back of the head stock?

Greg, if I didn’t know better, I’d say I was looking at my own backyard! I don’t know about you,
but it seems we are having more color this fall than last. Maybe due to those couple of good rains
we had this past month.

Anyway, great guitar, and looking forward to hearing her sing!

Robert

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Thanks again guys,

Hey Robert, you're in Ellijay, not far from my home in Dahlonega, we'll have to get together some time. Yes, I did veneer both sides of the headstock, and with 2 layers each..1 madagascar rosewood venner and 1 veneer of bloodwood, if you look closely you can see them in the pics.

Joel...not sure which dalbergia this is, and I chose that port design purely on aesthetics(well structurally I made sure the corners are round not pointed).... I don't like the round ones either

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Good looking guitar Greg


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Greg, I go right through Dahlonega when I go to North Ga. Hardwoods in Cleveland. They’re
about the best place to go around here for hardwoods. I been thinking of going back there soon,
and look for some well quarter sawn cherry. The only trouble is, I think all of their stock is kiln dried.
Not the best choice for tone wood, however, I’m thinking it might work OK for necks.

As far as getting together, sounds good! I’ve been meaning to take my two boys to the gold museum.
My oldest says he wants to be a geologist, and for some reason, he’s got a real fascination with gold.
I guess, that could be a good thing, somewhere down the road.

PM me sometime, and we’ll make plans to meet up.

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Another nice looking guitar Greg. I am curious to hear the difference you think the different backs make as well...


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