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Don't ask.
I have do do a bridge replacement and .....
Okay here goes, Knox unflavored gelatin is pig collagen, HG is cattle collagen. Won't work? Am I crazy for thinking about it?
any help out there guys?


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Yes!

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Direct and to the point.
I like it!
But does any one know why we use cows and not pigs to make the glue?


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HG is cattle

Hide glue can be any animal, and specifcally, the high clarity glue that many of us use is pork...



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I'm certainly no expert or even close to it, but I'll send you to one who is. Frank Ford uses gelatin in a pinch

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But is it kosher?

Me thinks not...


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[QUOTE=Tim Hammett] Don't ask.
I have do do a bridge replacement and .....
Okay here goes, Knox unflavored gelatin is pig collagen, HG is cattle collagen. Won't work? Am I crazy for thinking about it?
any help out there guys?[/QUOTE]

Depends...does the guitar belong to "Hugh Hefier" or a member of "Pig & Rich"?

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[QUOTE=Rick Turner] But is it kosher?

Me thinks not...[/QUOTE]

Oy vey!   Here we go...I can just see the unending string of livestock puns littering the range. Think I'll just hoof it out of here ahead of the stampede.

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"What's that stuff that smells like fish?"

I'll tell you if you really want to know...

"What's that stuff that smells like fish?"

I'll tell you if you really want to know...

It's not tuna, don't come in a can, it's what...


Yeah, you guys have heard that tune, I'd guess...Or was it a Tuna?





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The thread digresses to "Surf and Turf"

"Keep on truckin', mama,
Truck my blues away"

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I think it calls for an experiment. I would not try it on a guitar you plan to sell if I was you but maybe and old junker you got laying around. I hear orange jello is the best for gluing on braces.

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You guys are killing me. :o)

If it's good enough for Mr. Ford (@350gm strength) It may do just fine,that is if I can work fast enough.

Believe me i appreciate all the comments.
Hank, I think you're right, the thread has digressed to 'surf 'n' turf


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I've used 192 g on 4 guitars,bridges included. I had to re glue two of them (bridges), tho this could of been user error.Point is that I had hoped that 192g was strong enough for bridges myself. Clinton


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Anybody have an idea what strength the Behlen's hide glue is? I don't see it on the can.

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All i use is 192....

but. That number is merely a quantitative measurement. It's not the bond strength.

It's merely the "burst" quality of the gelled gelatin.



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Todd, your expertise with numbers, and practical applications for data, is staggering. You're like a walking statistical program. If I had that much information in my head (and friends will eagerly verify that I don't), I think it would explode.

Thanks, as always.

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