Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:11 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:58 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:07 am
Posts: 161
Location: Ulster Park, New York
First name: Bill
Last Name: Sterling
City: Ulster Park
State: New York
Zip/Postal Code: 12487
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
 Is there a general rule of thumb for thickness of sides and backs. I am going by what I saw in the Stew-Mac catalog for steel strings .095-.1 for sides and .115-.120 for backs. I am new to this what are reasons that you would change this- wood type? Are classicals the same?

_________________
Mistakes are mandatory-learning from them is optional. http://www.opensourceluthiersupply.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:18 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:19 pm
Posts: 1051
Location: United States

I build classicals and in general I take the sides to 2mm (~.078") and backs can range from 2mm to 2.5mm (~.078- .098).


Different woods can be more difficule to bend than others so there is no general rule of thumb.  Another important aspect is whether the wood is quartersawn or not. 


Steel strings are under tension much more so than classicals so my dimensions are specific to classical guitars.



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:28 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:38 pm
Posts: 1542
Location: United States
I am with Todd. I have a few old martins and worked on many. I some were as thin as .065 and as heavy as .080 the backs .090 to .120
    I do most with .075 sides and ,090 back
john


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:12 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:15 pm
Posts: 2302
Location: Florida

I'll third the past two suggestions. I have built with thicker woods, but afterwards found I could have gone much thinner. I try to shoot for about .70 to .80 for sides and .85 to .95 for backs. Some woods I go a little thinner, some a little thicker, but not by much.


 


_________________
Reguards,

Ken H


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:14 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:14 am
Posts: 2590
Location: United States
.75 sides, .85 backs, .110-.125 for tops depending on stiffness, size, and bracing...you really have to have each piece in your hands to decide...I agree with John about the Martins...they got really thin at times but they know how to sand and not go too far!

_________________
http://www.presnallguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:31 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:44 pm
Posts: 1105
Location: Crownsville, MD
First name: Trevor
Last Name: Lewis
City: Crownsville
State: MD
Zip/Postal Code: 21032
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Dang I just saw this thread (after posting my own!)...I didn't realize you guys commonly use sides down to .075. I thought .090 was more standard? I was concerned about my current build which has sides between .075 and .080...guess I'm right in the ball park?

_________________
http://www.PeakeGuitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:46 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:14 am
Posts: 2590
Location: United States
Parse, the advantage of a .90 side is that you can sand the box with anything short of a die grinder and not ruin anything...but, as you progress and hone your process, you don't need to sand/scrape too much on the completed box anyway...and thin sides bend easier and I think make for a more "open" sounding guitar...although the top/back contribute much more to the sound than the sides!

_________________
http://www.presnallguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 41 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com