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Author: | dradlin [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Thread Insert Tear-Out Repair |
I had a mandolin in for repair recently to repair and reattach a broken neck. The neck joint was a straight mortise and tenon, fixed with hide glue and machine screws into threaded inserts. The threaded inserts tore out of the narrow tenon. The challenge was to install new threaded inserts without damaging the narrow tenon (crack), have suitable pull-out resistance, and consider future repair if ever needed again. So I chose a large dowel into which I could thread and epoxy a new threaded insert without concern for cracking. After cured, the dowel was then turned on my mini-lathe to a reamer matched diameter just larger that the threaded insert. The torn out hole in the neck tenon was reamed to clean and size the hole in preparation for the insert without cracking the tenon. The turned insert was sized about .003" smaller than the reamed hole. Now the turned insert is glued into the prepared hole using hot hide glue. With test samples prepared for destructive testing a Robertson head machine screw head stripped before any sign of the insert unseating. The insert is installed without stressing the tenon and potentially causing a crack. To remove the insert heat the insert with a soldering iron to release the hide glue. So all my repair objectives were accomplished. I'm not sure if this repair method has been shared before, regardless it's new to me and proved to yield great results. I would probably use the method to install on new builds in addition to repairs. Cheers! |
Author: | truckjohn [ Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:57 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thread Insert Tear-Out Repair |
Very nice way to do this. From your description - it sounded like you were reporting a failed test.... When really you are reporting a success. It took me a couple reads to realize it worked out properly and is a complete success. I like the way that came out. I like reusing old necks off beater guitars. This may be a great way to do it without danger of splitting the tenon or stripping out old wood. Thanks |
Author: | Fred Tellier [ Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thread Insert Tear-Out Repair |
Good save Dave, probably the inserts are stronger than the original. Fred |
Author: | dradlin [ Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thread Insert Tear-Out Repair |
Thanks guys, hope it is helpful to others... |
Author: | Chris Pile [ Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thread Insert Tear-Out Repair |
Pretty savvy technique, I'd say. Well done, and thanks for sharing. |
Author: | jfmckenna [ Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thread Insert Tear-Out Repair |
That's very clever and in fact a viable technique on a new instrument as well I'd say. |
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