Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:18 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 45 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:08 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
New style basd on OM - I call it my concert model as I plan for world domination :shock: ;)

Plan drawn, Mold has been made and have now glued up back and top

Woods:
B/S - Malaysian Blackwood
Top - old Sitka
Adirondack bracing (top)
laminated spanish cedar bracing for back
Honduran Mahogany neck
Ebony fret board bound
Headstock bound
Tuners - TBC
Bindings TBC

The plan - sorry for rubbish pic quality

Image

Malaysian blackwood B+S

Image

Close up of Sitka Top

Image



Oh and some scrap piece I might use testing (or #50) ;)

Image
Image

UPDATE: thanks to the advice I managed to get thes eposted - just need a decent camera now.. :(


Last edited by Frank Cousins on Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 am, edited 10 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:33 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:32 pm
Posts: 3470
First name: Alex
Last Name: Kleon
City: Whitby
State: Ontario
Zip/Postal Code: L1N8X2
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Hey Frank - None of your pictures are showing up for me. Anyone else having this problem?

Alex

_________________
"Indecision is the key to flexibility" .... Bumper sticker


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:45 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Same for me... not sure what I have done wrong... simply added the URLs from flickr within teh img tags..? any help appreciated :shock:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:48 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
The blackwood and top pics can be found here - sorry about the auto link not working

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29991740@N05/8367567678/in/photostream/

First guitar is also still up there with my scrap wood :o


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:50 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:01 pm
Posts: 3031
First name: Tony
Last Name: C
City: Brooklyn
State: NY
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I link to Flickr all the time. There is an issue that you need to be aware of however. You can not copy the link in the address bar.
First, you must click on the image and get to the spot where you see all of the available sizes. Pick the appropriate size for the forum, then right click on the image. Select, "Copy image URL" and then come here and paste the link into your post with the IMG tags. Then you will be good to go.
If you copy the link in the address bar, the pics don't work. Not really sure why.

_________________
http://www.CostaGuitars.com
PMoMC


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:19 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:28 pm
Posts: 687
First name: Casey
Last Name: Cochran
City: Gainesville
State: GA
Zip/Postal Code: 30501
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Wow, Frank, your #1 is beautiful! The blackwood and sitka for this build are spectacular too. Looking forward to following this one.

_________________
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:36 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Tony_in_NYC wrote:
I link to Flickr all the time. There is an issue that you need to be aware of however. You can not copy the link in the address bar.
First, you must click on the image and get to the spot where you see all of the available sizes. Pick the appropriate size for the forum, then right click on the image. Select, "Copy image URL" and then come here and paste the link into your post with the IMG tags. Then you will be good to go.
If you copy the link in the address bar, the pics don't work. Not really sure why.


Thanks Tony, followed you instructions and seems to work - pic quality from the phone is awful, will try and use a better camera for progress.

Good luck everyone - should be fun seeing all these new instruments come to life.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:40 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Casey Cochran wrote:
Wow, Frank, your #1 is beautiful! The blackwood and sitka for this build are spectacular too. Looking forward to following this one.


Thanks appreciated. She has a few dings and scratches now, but has opened up beautifully - the top was a very tight grained German Spruce from around 1980 so i think that helped, but would love to build with Macassar again. When I bought that set it cost be £150 ($200) in 2008... If I could find one that nice again I would have to pay at least double if not more now... why I took a break and started buying a few sets :o


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:41 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:59 pm
Posts: 3593
First name: Dennis
Last Name: Kincheloe
City: Kansas City
State: MO
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Just cause I'm feeling generous, I'll trade you my whole box of scraps for your one scrap :mrgreen:

That's some seriously nice wood for a second build. Do it justice [:Y:]


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:37 am 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:12 pm
Posts: 12
Country: UK
Focus: Build
Great to see another UKer on the forum and in the contest. Good luck to you. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:08 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
DennisK wrote:
Just cause I'm feeling generous, I'll trade you my whole box of scraps for your one scrap :mrgreen:

That's some seriously nice wood for a second build. Do it justice [:Y:]



LOL - must admit had plenty of similar offers for that scrap piece ;)

Going to wait till I get 10 or so under my belt before using it though...make sure I cn do it justice, as not sure I will ever find anything similar - it rings like a bell! 8-)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:18 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:04 am
Posts: 773
First name: Peter
Last Name: Fenske
City: Leeds
State: Yorkshire
Country: Uk
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
What's so scrap about it?

_________________
"I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how to do it."
Pablo Picasso

https://www.facebook.com/FenskeGuitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:13 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
PeterF wrote:
What's so scrap about it?


A wee jest that's all, tis my prized Brazilian RW set - I joined the back in a moment of madness as I just wanted to see it... but will wait quite a while til I have the exerience to do it justice... cant wait, but I have a tendancy to 'rush in' where the angels dont like planting their feet' so need to keep it hidden away :shock:

Just back from my dungeon work shop - now 10pm here.

Scraped the back to final thickness, and glued up the laminated back braces - also the centre strip glued and shaped - next is get the back braces on, but away with work for 3 days now so will try and post some more pics tomorrow... but then no more til next weekend... :cry:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:02 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Ok some progress has been made!

Back braces now on, shaped and so with just a bit of cleaning up to do before back is to go. Shaping the brace with a small IBEX plane is a fun part of the build IMHO. Back braces are 5 ply laminated from Spanish Cedar, and 0.3mm maple and dyed maple veneer.

Image

Image

Next up onto the top - the rosette


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:49 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:52 am
Posts: 1388
First name: Zeke
Last Name: McKee
City: Goodlettsville
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37070
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Those braces are sweet! Very cool! Only bad part is most people will never see them. I bet they are a little stiffer since they are laminated. Do you think so? If so did you make them a little smaller to compensate? Also what is the reason for the top 2 braces to arch over the back strip while te bottom two do not?


Last edited by ZekeM on Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:47 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:28 pm
Posts: 687
First name: Casey
Last Name: Cochran
City: Gainesville
State: GA
Zip/Postal Code: 30501
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Lookin' good, Frank! [:Y:]

_________________
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:05 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:25 pm
Posts: 2749
Location: Netherlands
Tony_in_NYC wrote:
I link to Flickr all the time. There is an issue that you need to be aware of however. You can not copy the link in the address bar.
First, you must click on the image and get to the spot where you see all of the available sizes. Pick the appropriate size for the forum, then right click on the image. Select, "Copy image URL" and then come here and paste the link into your post with the IMG tags. Then you will be good to go.
If you copy the link in the address bar, the pics don't work. Not really sure why.


Um, or just share it? There's built-in functionality for posting to web forums.

Go to the flicker page in question (the link earlier in the thread), click on 'share' (bar above and to the left of the picture), click on 'share HTML/BB code', copy the BB code and paste it into your reply. Voila. Image displayed, with a link to the Flickr image so people can browse the stream or look at larger versions if desired.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:09 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
ZekeM wrote:
Those braces are sweet! Very cool! Only bad part is most people will never see them. I bet they are a little stiffer since they are laminated. Do you think so? If so did you make them a little smaller to compensate?


Thanks. Main reason was I had the cedar - definitely a little stiffer than the non-laminated material at the same width - width is 8mm, so not a great deal in it. Hoping to get the box as rigid as possible and not too worried about the weight. My first was 'heavy' with Macassar B+S, but gave a very rigid box and some strong bass which i am trying to replicate with the Malysian ebony. - Will see what happens ;)

Do like the asthetic though when looking through the soundhole - suspect I will eventually get some 'flat spots on teh back where my little arches are, but wanted to try that aproach again for asthetic reasons rather than anything structual.

Now snowing heavily outside so means may get a few hours on the top over the weekend bliss


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:11 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Mattia Valente wrote:
Tony_in_NYC wrote:
I link to Flickr all the time. There is an issue that you need to be aware of however. You can not copy the link in the address bar.
First, you must click on the image and get to the spot where you see all of the available sizes. Pick the appropriate size for the forum, then right click on the image. Select, "Copy image URL" and then come here and paste the link into your post with the IMG tags. Then you will be good to go.
If you copy the link in the address bar, the pics don't work. Not really sure why.


Um, or just share it? There's built-in functionality for posting to web forums.

Go to the flicker page in question (the link earlier in the thread), click on 'share' (bar above and to the left of the picture), click on 'share HTML/BB code', copy the BB code and paste it into your reply. Voila. Image displayed, with a link to the Flickr image so people can browse the stream or look at larger versions if desired.


Thanks for that - take it you dont need to post this [img] tags?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:49 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
...Ok made progress but not too happy with the rossette result

It looks better than the pic, but a couple of issues - 2 x small tear outs and 2 places where the shell has 'moved' and left unsightly gaps... :? :(

Pondering whether to simply rout it all out and start again... might be the best option.

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:16 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:28 pm
Posts: 687
First name: Casey
Last Name: Cochran
City: Gainesville
State: GA
Zip/Postal Code: 30501
Country: USA
Focus: Build
What about routing another channel right to the edge and adding more purfling or shell?

_________________
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:08 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Could do, but had hoped to keep this quite simple/subtle. Will give it some thought this week as once again have travel with work until Thursday... will post some ideas but welcome any more that folk might have?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:47 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:25 pm
Posts: 2749
Location: Netherlands
Frank Cousins wrote:
Mattia Valente wrote:
Tony_in_NYC wrote:
I link to Flickr all the time. There is an issue that you need to be aware of however. You can not copy the link in the address bar.
First, you must click on the image and get to the spot where you see all of the available sizes. Pick the appropriate size for the forum, then right click on the image. Select, "Copy image URL" and then come here and paste the link into your post with the IMG tags. Then you will be good to go.
If you copy the link in the address bar, the pics don't work. Not really sure why.


Um, or just share it? There's built-in functionality for posting to web forums.

Go to the flicker page in question (the link earlier in the thread), click on 'share' (bar above and to the left of the picture), click on 'share HTML/BB code', copy the BB code and paste it into your reply. Voila. Image displayed, with a link to the Flickr image so people can browse the stream or look at larger versions if desired.


Thanks for that - take it you dont need to post this [img] tags?


If you simply copy the BB code for sharing an image, it handles all the img and other (BB) tags for your.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:15 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:52 am
Posts: 1388
First name: Zeke
Last Name: McKee
City: Goodlettsville
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37070
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Sorry to hear about your rosette mishap. It doesnt look all that bad to me. Its actually pretty good IMO. But I know where you are coming from, if i know there is a tiny mistake here or there, even if no one else sees it, it bothers the heck out of me. If you are that way the only thing I could see to do is rout it out and do it again. Maybe make the channel a little wider and do the same rosette with your shell just a little wider than you have now.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:36 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:57 am
Posts: 544
Location: Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
What a week, heavy snow and a long drive down and back from Scotland to London for work - glad to be home...

Well Mrs C has me working on restoring the Georgian Shutters in the guest room this weekend which is great as it means i can try and sneeak in a bit of buid time. Still not decided on the Rosette - If I felt comfortable that I could rout out the shell (mask on naturally) I think I would redo - Anyone ever taken a router to ablam (I know - but the Blue paua I have was not a subtle and I wanted a subtle shade on this build) and gotten a decent result?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 45 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com