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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:10 pm 
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This will be guitar #11. Commisioned by a friend as a gift for a friend. Total secret so that's all your getting :D

Again, my GA model based off the Gibson J-185.

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And the top

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Got the top joined together and working on the back, it's fighting me a bit, but I'll win :D

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:44 pm 
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oooh...nice looking top!

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Really interested in watching you on this one. I'm designing a guitar based on a J-185 myself. Person I'm making it for wants Mahogany b/s, and a Lutz top. Also wants the neck to join at the 12th. All new terrain for me so I hope you don't mind if I peek at your work from time to time.

Also loved the Celtic Guitar post, your not alone in battles like that one.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:36 am 
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Really interested in watching you on this one. I'm designing a guitar based on a J-185 myself. Person I'm making it for wants Mahogany b/s, and a Lutz top. Also wants the neck to join at the 12th. All new terrain for me so I hope you don't mind if I peek at your work from time to time.

Also loved the Celtic Guitar post, your not alone in battles like that one.

Keep inspiring, [:Y:]


Hey Jeremy, thanks for the comments about the Celtic guitar.

Interesting idea about the 12th fret join on a J-185. What scale are you planning with it? Just make sure you draw it all out so you get your bridge patch and x-brace located right. I'll be interested to see your build, I hope you'll document it here.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:16 pm 
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Some major updating is needed, mostly pictures, ask questions if you got any :)

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Tiger Myrtle bindings

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linings going in

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Tasmanian blackwood neck, gluing the scarf joint for the 24 string model ;)

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Back braces being glued on

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After the scarf joint was done, I ripped the neck in half to make a solid center laminate of red fibre and lacewood, which is what the top purfling is going to be.

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Back done, ready to attach to the rims.

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And onto the top. This is my version of a Jason Kostal Stained Glass rosette, just getting it glued into the channel. Still needs the b/r/b purflings.

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That's it for now I'll update again or you can see all this on my facebook page (link in sig line)

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Awesome rosette, especially next to the redwood. What is it actually?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:51 pm 
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Thanks Alex, the wood is pear burl dyed amber and red and some natural pieces, all glued together with 0.025" ebony between. Took a bit of time ;)

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Wow, that rosette is gorgeous, Rod! Eat Drink [:Y:]


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Very nice, Bro...that rosette is primo...kudos!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:02 pm 
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Thanks my Friend!

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Beautiful rosette still can't really understand how you get all the pieces to fit hmmm.
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Looking real good Rod, looking forward to seeing the progress pictures as it advances.

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That rosette is like church on a sunny day! [clap]

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truly nice looking rosette. I love your true guitars stamp too.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:53 am 
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Thanks guys, I'm having a lot of fun with this one :)

Nick, that's actually a branding iron, burned into the spruce :)

OK, a few more update pictures.

cut the channels for the rosette purfling and gluing the inside in.

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And the outside glued in.

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I didn't show the picture but I glued up some lacewood with a 0.010" red fibre on each side and cut them for purflings. The Zootman made some with mahogany many years ago and called them Hog-O-Lam purflings, well these are my Lace-O-Lam purflings. As you can see they are nice and thin, right around 0.070" wide. I glued them up with titebond III like many other folks do when making purflings or bindings...

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Here's the finished rosette, soundhole cut out and backed by the guitar back. A couple spit coats of shellac to help protect the top during further building. I'm going to tape a piece of poster board over it as well to also protect it.

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And a close up of the rosette. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. Again I want to give credit to Jason Kostal, creator of the Stained Glass rosette and thanks for the A-OK to use it on my guitar.

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Thanks for looking.

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Fantastic Rosette! Enjoying seeing the progress.

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Looks great, Rod. Nice to see the stamp right side up!

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Wow! I love that rosette!


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I also really like the rosette -- in fact, I like it better than Jason's version. I also think it shows your character in that you gave him credit for the design. It is very difficult to truly do anything "new" in guitar building -- but obvious inspiration should always credit the originator - something I don't always see on this forum. Like the others, I am looking forward to seeing how this one turns out!!! Beautiful workmanship already!!!


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SimonF wrote:
I also really like the rosette -- in fact, I like it better than Jason's version. I also think it shows your character in that you gave him credit for the design. It is very difficult to truly do anything "new" in guitar building -- but obvious inspiration should always credit the originator - something I don't always see on this forum. Like the others, I am looking forward to seeing how this one turns out!!! Beautiful workmanship already!!!


Thank you Simon, humbling coming from you :)

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...Either way, this is looking great! The rosette is really stellar! Also, where'd you get those bindings?!


Thank you Chris! Are you asking about the lacewood with the red purfling line on either side? I made those myself, they are going to be top purfling with the tigar myrtle bindings.

If talking about the tigar myrtle bindings, I got a stick of tigar myrtle from Tim Spittle from Australian Tonewood and cut the bindings myself.

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Awesome job, Rod. Really lovely work. I have some beautiful sinker redwood waiting in the wings. If I can get it even halfway to your level of craftsmanship I'll be ecstatic.

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Nice guitar,
and the rosette is beautiful!
I'm building an instrument out of Tas Blackwood.
It's a bear.
When the sides were wet for bending,
unbelievably beautiful!


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Nice guitar,
and the rosette is beautiful!
I'm building an instrument out of Tas Blackwood.
It's a bear.
When the sides were wet for bending,
unbelievably beautiful!


Thanks Alan!

This is my second go round with Tas Blackwood, what are you finding "it's a bear" with? I've found it behaves very well under heat and bending, no splinters and apart from a bit of green staining (too much water...), which sands out just fine, I've found it very nice to work with.

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Well, I was going to plane the back ,
with a low angle block plane,
really sharp,
with a very shallow cut,
and it really dug in badly.
Reminded me of beautiful but nasty grain koa I worked with once.
Better to sand it!


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Hi Rod,
Man,you are getting pretty good at this!! I also like the rosette and with the red purfling,it's going
to be a very beautiful guitar. I can't wait to see her all finished. [:Y:]

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