Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:12 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Neck pocket clearance
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:10 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:35 am
Posts: 671
Location: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
For a bolt on neck, how much clearance should one leave in the neck pocket for a tight fit, but one not so tight that when it get's finished it isn't so tight as to impede attachment.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:25 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:12 am
Posts: 1170
First name: Rodger
Last Name: Knox
City: Baltimore
State: MD
Zip/Postal Code: 21234
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I usually put a piece of painters tape around the neck when I'm making the template to route the neck pocket.
Due to the slight taper of the neck, the fit of the heel into the back of the pocket determines how tight the sides are.
edit: I'd say 0.01" clearance is good, and 0.03" is probably typical for factory Fenders.

_________________
A man hears what he wants to hear, and disreguards the rest. Paul Simon



These users thanked the author Rodger Knox for the post: dberkowitz (Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:30 am)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:39 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:55 am
Posts: 982
Location: Traverse City Michigan
Leo designed the bolt on neck mortise with a 2 degree angle on the bass side.

Try this in a drawing David
To do this you would draw your body.
Draw in the Mortise by tracing your neck end. This would give the perfect tight fit.
But as I said Leo designed two degree relief to be able to angle the neck when setting up the guitar.
Mark a point where the neck end and the neck base side would meet if these two lines were straight. The reason I say this is because it slightly rounded.
From this point draw a line that is at A 2° angle.
This allows the neck to be pointed right or left. However this is obviously only possible if the troubles side is open like a strata caster. If not you will need the 2° angle on the other side also. This might look a little bit too big of a gap.

I hope I'm clear on this.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ken

_________________
Ken



These users thanked the author Ken McKay for the post: dberkowitz (Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:12 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:03 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:59 pm
Posts: 372
First name: Aaron
Last Name: Thompson
City: Atlanta
State: Ga
Zip/Postal Code: 30308
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Every time I get the opportunity (be it fortunate or unfortunate) to be able to measure a piece of my finish for thickness, it usually comes in around .007"-.008". Remember you need to figure this increase for both sides of the neck. So, I would say roger's suggestion of .010" is probably on the safe side. That is if you are figuring the increase all the way around. If he's saying .010" total, that might be a bit renegade. Or maybe my finishes are too thick.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

_________________
"I'm not going to say that perfection has never been achieved. However, if it has, it probably went unnoticed due to it's lack of character."



These users thanked the author absrec for the post: dberkowitz (Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:13 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:33 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:26 am
Posts: 97
First name: Brian
Last Name: Wilson
Country: Scotland
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Measuring my recent build the finish (truoil 13 coats) is 0.007 same as you Aaron. I didn't allow for this and ended up a little tight. In the end I just wet sanded the pocket with a bit p600 till it fitted nicely but this is a handy piece of info.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:28 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:59 pm
Posts: 372
First name: Aaron
Last Name: Thompson
City: Atlanta
State: Ga
Zip/Postal Code: 30308
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
mechanix wrote:
Measuring my recent build the finish (truoil 13 coats) is 0.007 same as you Aaron. I didn't allow for this and ended up a little tight. In the end I just wet sanded the pocket with a bit p600 till it fitted nicely but this is a handy piece of info.

I also tape off my neck pockets when I finish.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

_________________
"I'm not going to say that perfection has never been achieved. However, if it has, it probably went unnoticed due to it's lack of character."


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com