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Author:  Stuart Gort [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:48 pm ]
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It's about time I got these photos shot and published. I've had model June complete for a few months now.

This guitar is Bamboo, Purple Heart, and Bubinga...incorporating this three layered effect in several places on the instrument. The pickups are Dimarzio's answer to noisy P-90's....a noise cancelling humbucker wound to emulate the growl of the classic P-90.

June is a true small semi-hollow body. The inside of this guitar is quite empty. The tone is warm and smooth as is expected of a semi-hollow body guitar. I expect a small bit of that warmth is attributable to the Bamboo. I made four prototype models of June out of varying woods to test that theory.

Author:  John Lewis [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:53 pm ]
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Pretty snazzy sir! I like it. I like it a lot.

Author:  dzsmith [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:28 pm ]
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Stuart,
This instrument is truly a work of art.
The precise construction is uncanny.
Great work!
Dan

Author:  Freeman [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:40 pm ]
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What John Lewis said - I like that a lot too.

Author:  sdsollod [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:50 pm ]
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Very nice! [clap] [clap] [clap]

Author:  Chris Pile [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:11 pm ]
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Tres sharp, Stuart. I like it very much.

Author:  Mike Baker [ Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:13 pm ]
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Love the design! Beautiful!

Author:  Irving [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:03 am ]
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Very unique layering effects. I like it.

Author:  nyazzip [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:36 am ]
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i've been eyeing bamboo cutting boards for the past few years, scheming and dreaming about making a body with it. very nice work.
how did it mill? any surprises? bamboo is a grass after all, and not wood...

Author:  Sandywood [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:27 am ]
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Beautiful and very clean looking Stuart -and it looks like it wants to be played.

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:01 am ]
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nyazzip wrote:
how did it mill? any surprises? bamboo is a grass after all, and not wood...


You can tell it wants to be stringy...but it didn't pull out so it really wasn't any particular challenge. Port Orford Cedar was substantially harder to machine.

Thanks for the nice comments gentlemen.

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:02 am ]
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For what it's worth...those photos were not Photoshopped except for subtle contrast and brightness alterations. I took the photos against a neutral gray background...some mat board bought at a local art supply store. I've never had such an easy time getting a good color balance.

Author:  nyazzip [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:42 pm ]
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I took the photos against a neutral gray background...some mat board bought at a local art supply store. I've never had such an easy time getting a good color balance.


color aside, i have realized that for getting a good exposure (especially if the exposure settings are not manual), it helps to photograph a dark subject against a dark background, a light subject against a light background, a medium darkness subject on a medium darkness background, and so on....

Author:  gxs [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:49 pm ]
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Did you mill the bridge and string stop on the back yourself?
GS

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:15 pm ]
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verhoevenc wrote:
Where'd you get the bamboo billets?
Chris


At a local lumber store Chris. They caught my eye and I became enamored with the notion of using them.

Amazingly stable material...there isn't the slightest movement with massive changes in moisture content.

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:21 pm ]
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gxs wrote:
Did you mill the bridge and string stop on the back yourself?
GS


Yes, George.

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:34 am ]
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Ooooh...the Neopolitian Plyboo would look VERY nice as a guitar!

Author:  B. Howard [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:55 am ]
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Beautiful! The contrasts in materials are a bit much for me personally but an incredible looking instrument non tyre less. One question, I see no screws on the access covers for truss or electrics so what holds them on?

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:41 pm ]
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I use small, low profile magnets there, Brian. They measure 1/8" in diameter and are .06 thick. I buy them through McMaster Carr but they don't actually list them in the online catalog.

These N42's are likely the very thing I'm getting through MM.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D21

Honestly, I doubt any other wood is as stable as Bamboo with regard to moisture ingress and egress. Couple that with very stiff and light mechanical properties and it's hard to imagine a better neck wood, at least it ought to be in theory. I wouldn't presume to say this as a matter of fact. The guitar sounds wonderful...having a very mellow tone. I attribute some of that to the near hollow geometry of the body...and some of it to the Bamboo....and, of course, the pickups play into it. I'm not certain how much any one factor is affecting the tone of this guitar.

I built four of these guitars...the one shown, one of Walnut over Maple (Maple neck), one of Myrtlewood over Peruvian Walnut (Walnut neck), and one of Maple over Sapele (Sapele neck). I have the same pickups going into each one. I'll get a chance to really hear the difference in side by side comparisons once they are all finished and setup. After that I'll put some Seymour Duncan P-Rails in a few of them to better make the comparisons between the geometry differences of this guitar to the chambered "Elise" model.

For now, I'm working on the neck through model.

The pic is a shot of the inside of this guitar. June is as empty as AC DC's horn section.

Author:  Ken McKay [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:31 pm ]
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Congrats Stuart. That's some good stuff there.


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Ken

Author:  the Padma [ Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:18 pm ]
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Yo, Zlurgh,

June be nice piece of eye candy to me..makes me feels happy lookin at her.

Tell us, how do you think bamboo would perform in an acoustic...top and or back?


thanks
duh Padma

Author:  nyazzip [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:01 am ]
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Quote:
I doubt any other wood is as stable as Bamboo with regard to moisture ingress and egress.


Quote:
Tell us, how do you think bamboo would perform in an acoustic...top and or back?


to be fair, bamboo (in these dimensions) is an engineered/laminated product. it grows in hollow tubes with a maximum diameter of say 6", with a wall thickness of maybe 1 inch- they aren't cutting out billets in a saw mill to produce slabs of it; it is glued together

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:13 am ]
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the Padma wrote:
Tell us, how do you think bamboo would perform in an acoustic...top and or back?


I wouldn't presume to say without any acoustic building experience other than what I've gleaned from true luthiers.

Harry Houdini used to be one of my childhood heroes, not necessarily because of his escapes, but because he liked to debunk mystics and mediums. A man after my own heart. I spend a lot of time building stuff to challenge widely held assumptions. The Bamboo appealed to me not simply because of the way it looks (I think it looks very cool) but because it struck me as an unlikely tone wood...a novelty. As I worked it I became more encouraged that it would produce a fairly lively instrument. The warm tone of the guitar IS lively...which is to say that when I say "warm" I don't mean "dead". Even so...I wouldn't try to extrapolate any observation I've made to an acoustic instrument.

Author:  Stuart Gort [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:17 am ]
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nyazzip wrote:
...to be fair, bamboo (in these dimensions) is an engineered/laminated product. it grows in hollow tubes with a maximum diameter of say 6", with a wall thickness of maybe 1 inch- they aren't cutting out billets in a saw mill to produce slabs of it; it is glued together


Exactly...but it's pretty remarkable to observe the glue lines under a microscope. Yes...it's an engineered wood...but it's engineered pretty well, I'd say. :)

Author:  the Padma [ Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:13 pm ]
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Stuart Gort wrote:
the Padma wrote:
Tell us, how do you think bamboo would perform in an acoustic...top and or back?


I wouldn't presume to say without any acoustic building experience other than what I've gleaned from true luthiers.

Harry Houdini used to be one of my childhood heroes, not necessarily because of his escapes, but because he liked to debunk mystics and mediums. A man after my own heart. I spend a lot of time building stuff to challenge widely held assumptions. The Bamboo appealed to me not simply because of the way it looks (I think it looks very cool) but because it struck me as an unlikely tone wood...a novelty. As I worked it I became more encouraged that it would produce a fairly lively instrument. The warm tone of the guitar IS lively...which is to say that when I say "warm" I don't mean "dead". Even so...I wouldn't try to extrapolate any observation I've made to an acoustic instrument.



Gee Zlurgh,

The to be expected typical INFJ response. Non the less, thank you.

Me had no idea that there were false luthiers out there...Please define "true luthiers" for us.

Oh and me sure do like them oval fretboard markers. Them is real sweet.


as always
duh Padma

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