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Author:  Sandywood [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  "Set" neck questions
Would making the pocket deeper for a Strat or Tele design
be good enough or would it still need a tenon for strength?

I have built one Tele style with a set neck and I did extend it.
It seemed like most any benefit it may have had was removed
by the pickup cavity.

Not having to extend it with a tenon would sure make it easier as
I usually use a top of figured wood.

Thoughts appreciated.
Author:  Sandywood [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "Set" neck questions
Thanks Chris.

I couldn't find the thread but I did
see two guitars at your site- "in progress" -
that are good examples of why I'm questioning set necks.

The photos are confusing to me because they show the neck
extending past the fretboard and I don't understand.
Is it trimmed off?
Will the pocket be routered in body without the top on to fit the full
length and then the top routered to fit around the neck/fretboard and then
glued on? ( which is the way I did...it was very hard to get a perfect fit- the top fitting
around the neck/fretboard...but I did and the reason I'm looking for an easier way- just seemed wrong)

I was also questoned about this when I saw the neck setting alignment jig. It also showed the neck with tenon
and I just couldn't believe the glued on figured top would be routered away for that tenon...I'm missing something.
Author:  dzsmith [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "Set" neck questions
I've built several where I chppoed the neck off at the end of the fretboard, with no extra tenon.
I think it depends how far into the body the neck will go. Mine were around 3".
I'm building a new one now, and I have the end of the fretboard about 1/2" past the edge of the body, so I'll have to use an extended tenon, and then go through the chore of making the top plate match as you did.
Dan
Author:  Sandywood [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "Set" neck questions
Dan I found one thing that will make it easier for me- in Frank Cousins thread about the
bass fretboard.

Having the oversized top. The first one I did had the top and body sized and the one
I'm working on now does. The next one won't.
Author:  Sandywood [ Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "Set" neck questions
Thank you Chris. The pictures are fine examples. I have a better understanding of
variations and why.
I installed P-90s that I wound so I had top inbetween the fretboard and pup-had I not trimmed the top to
body I would have had some play for getting the top/neck fit easier.
Author:  Chameleon [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "Set" neck questions
verhoevenc wrote:
Between these two pics you can KINDA see the pocket and how tiny you can get away with if you need to:
Image
Image
Can't believe I don't have a straight on picture of that pocket?!
That neck ended AT the fretboard. My other necks extend past it in my electrics. The reason? I'm routing a pickup right after the neck... who cares if there's a tenon. I set it and the humbucker goes in right over the extra tenon length. And in most cases the tenon is deeper than a pickup route, so I get that added extra support into the body (whether I need it or not, it's nice).
Chris


Thanks for the encouragement. I'm doing a bass with a similar kind of cutaway, although the pocket is longer and deeper. It will also end at the fretboard.
Author:  Brett L Faust [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "Set" neck questions
I have made set necks out of "bolt on style parts" that were a very tight perfect fit,( I could lift the guitar by the neck with no glue yet). Hint, chamfer the tenon corners inside the joint so the glue has a place to go(hydraulic pressure can prevent proper seating).
10 years old now, without a hint of joint trouble.
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