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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:09 am 
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I'm going to install string ferrules into my hardtail strat copy, finished with polyurethane lacquer (I guess it's PU or PE? it's definitely not nitro), that's about 1mm thick. How should I go about the drilling so that the lacquer won't crack? Will heating it a little help?
Thanks a lot.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:27 am 
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You may wish to wait for others to tune in but I have never had any problems if I first cover the target with masking tape and then use a good fresh bradpoint bit with sharp spurs.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:02 pm 
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Thanks a lot, Kim, I didn't think of using a masking tape - I'll try that.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:00 pm 
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Use a sharp endmill instead of a drill and you will almost eliminate the possiblity of ripping out anything.

Do it on a drill press....don't try it freehand.

Just take it REAL easy as the bit approaches the wood...don't force it until the surface is fully penetrated. Take tiny little bites until then.

For a bit around 1/8" try to run the rpm above 2500 if possible.....otherwise just go nice and slow on the inital cuts.

If you must use a drill bit, make sure it's REAL sharp on the corners and use as high an rpm as your drill press will allow.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:49 pm 
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I've heated a bit up with a torch first. The bit of melt on the initial entry stops the chipping, but it's a fine balance between enough heat and scorching or melting something you don't want to.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:45 am 
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I use a forstner bit and then countersink the hole. Even if you successfully drill a clean hole, the ferrule can still crack the poly when you press it in. I know other people who drill the hole too big on purpose and glue the ferrule in.
Use a drill press, lower the countersink very slowly using a fast speed setting.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:09 pm 
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Thanks a lot for the advices! I'm glad I asked first - I was thinking the slowest speed setting would do the job better :oops:
Will report back how the job turned out.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:58 am 
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hey! i just did that 2 days ago for the first time in my life.

what i did was make a template out of baltic birtch ply, with a drillpress,
checked that with the bridge ferrules, if it fits,
mask and layout holes on the git,
clamped it to the body, and yay, it worked perfecto!
uh-oh, is that a les paul?
guess it wouldn't work there


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:50 pm 
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Here's how it turned out - not perfect, but not too bad either, given it was my first try.
Fast speed on drill, drill stand, masking tape and this tutorial did the job.
Thanks once again for your help!

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