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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:55 pm 
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A Schaller one-piece or similar.


Like this one?
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Nice bridge, used quite a few and all the feedback has been positive.

The Steve Vai Ibanez is a full floating trem so there is a shallow (3/16"?) rout below the entire bridge. Find a machinist and have them make a plate out of brass, aluminum, steel... to fit in the rout on the top. Secure it with the original bridge hardware in front of the new bridge and two added fasteners to the rear. Holes drilled and tapped for the new bridge to be attached with machine screws and your done. Don't forget to attach the ground wire to the bottom of the plate. That Schaller bridge comes with a spacer plate which gives you a lot of height adjustment.

Totally reversible, will look good, reasonable cost. What's not to love?

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Forgot to add to just pull the locks off the nut and throw them in the box with the other parts. The remaining nut will work just fine and certainly looks better than some conversions I've seen.

I've used one of these- really great bridge. Note that it is low profile and intended for a Fender type straight neck.

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It sounds like the guy has a cheap guitar of no sentimental value and is trying to get it to be something it's not.


An Ibanez Steve Vai is hardly a cheap guitar. Back in the 80's they were around $1700.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:33 pm 
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Some interesting ideas in this thread, although some comments have been over-the-top or simply not relevant to the discussion. My original request was to get experience on the feasibility of converting a Floyd Rose-equipped guitar to a non-tremolo bridge.

While the thread has played out, I've been in travel mode, having spent Christmas and the New Year in New Zealand, and now freezing my tush in the "arctic vortex" parked in southern Ontario -- heading back to Nairobi on Saturday. I just yesterday had a chance to visit a guitar store in Cobourg and looked over several instruments with the Floyd Rose system. Perhaps I'll change my opinion once I disassemble one of these, but I really can't see this being a difficult or costly conversion; I believe I can make a decent looking job and also retain the option to revert back to the Floyd Rose -- respecting my personal ethic to "do no harm". I also think I can do this for a price that will be attractive to this Kenyan musician and give him the axe he's looking for.

No doubt some forum members have other opinions -- all are valid, for now. If the conversion gets the "go-ahead", I'll post some pics along the way and we'll all be better informed after seeing the job complete. Thanks all for your generous input.


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spent Christmas and the New Year in New Zealand, and now freezing my tush in the "arctic vortex" parked in southern Ontario -- heading back to Nairobi on Saturday.


that's quite an itinerary- i can only dream of such a thing! cheers


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Chris Pile wrote:
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It sounds like the guy has a cheap guitar of no sentimental value and is trying to get it to be something it's not.


An Ibanez Steve Vai is hardly a cheap guitar. Back in the 80's they were around $1700.



If you had read this thread you wouldn't have made this post.

Well maybe you would have...I don't know. Doesn't matter anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:00 pm 
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spent Christmas and the New Year in New Zealand, and now freezing my tush in the "arctic vortex" parked in southern Ontario -- heading back to Nairobi on Saturday.


that's quite an itinerary- i can only dream of such a thing! cheers

Well the travel from Toronto to Nairobi was a nightmare -- all airport computers at Pearson were down, and my first leg to JFK was cancelled due to fog. I got myself back to Kenya, but who knows when or if I'll ever see my luggage again.


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One other option worth considering is to remove the tremolo block itself and attaching it directly to a wood block that fills the cavity. It saves you the trouble of ensuring that two blocks will maintain stability. If you have any doubts a small lip could be added that protrudes into the spring cavity, thus allowing a couple of screws to anchor it firmly in place.



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Filippo Morelli wrote:
The best part of this thread is that the hourly rate of the talent that has posted here has well exceeded the value of the instrument!

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hugh.evans wrote:
One other option worth considering is to remove the tremolo block itself and attaching it directly to a wood block that fills the cavity. It saves you the trouble of ensuring that two blocks will maintain stability. If you have any doubts a small lip could be added that protrudes into the spring cavity, thus allowing a couple of screws to anchor it firmly in place.


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I think the ever-tune hardtails have somewhat similar through-body routing like the Floyd Rose, I know I'm late popping in here, but they seem like a decent unit, assuming the musician is not constantly changing his tuning preferences. One could probably retrofit one of these unit into a floyd equipped guitar. Not honestly 100% sure, but this was the first thing to pop into my head when I read this thread.


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UPDATE:
This thread had generated a lot of interest and I was kinda looking forward to doing the conversion of this FR guitar to a hardtail. But, reality got in the way when the client ran into trouble getting his work permit renewed. He's been in Kenya for 12 years, but some government clerk has decided that maybe he should move on. If he gets it sorted, I might hear from him again, but for now the project is on the shelf.

Thanks all for your ideas and opinions.


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