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Author:  npalen [ Tue May 26, 2009 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  ER20 Collets for spindles

Can you guys recommend a good source for these?
I'm looking for 1/8", 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" and see quite a range of prices leading me to believe that some of them are inferior.
Ebay shows several different sets of metric and "imperial" but the price, which figures as low as $5.00 each collet is suspect.
I've seen prices for individual collets as high as $70 ea.
Thanks
Nelson

Author:  Fernando Alonso Jaén [ Tue May 26, 2009 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

I bought a set of cheap ER25 collets and some of them had a terrible runout. Then I changed to Rego-Fix collets from Switzerland. They are expensive, but I am sure they will last a long time. Mine are standard precision, but they have them in high precision (extremely low TIR, below 5 um). The difference can even be seen: my original collets had a matt surface, these others shine like mirrors.

Author:  npalen [ Tue May 26, 2009 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

Sounds like they were vapor blasted or something to make them look pretty (matt surface) but not precision ground?
Runout is my main concern as I'm investing in a spindle that's supposed to be within .0006" TIR.

Author:  Kevin Waldron [ Tue May 26, 2009 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PART ... O=22538163

Try these guys. I have always had good result with there products.

Kevin Waldron

Author:  Fernando Alonso Jaén [ Wed May 27, 2009 4:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

Quote:
Sounds like they were vapor blasted or something to make them look pretty (matt surface) but not precision ground?
Runout is my main concern as I'm investing in a spindle that's supposed to be within .0006" TIR.


Standard TIR in most collets is 15 um (0.0006"). Some of my cheap collets measured more than twice that value. Standard precision in Rego-Fix collets is 10 um, and high precision collets are below 5 um (0.0002"). Rego-Fix were the inventors of ER collets and they must be the best around, but perhaps you may find cheaper alternatives.

Author:  Bob Garrish [ Wed May 27, 2009 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

I don't know where he gets them, but I pay $20 a collet from my tooling guy. He supplies all the aerospace shops, etc, around here so he only sells top quality stuff. So I know that you can get top-grade ones for $20 at most :)

What's with the quotes around 'imperial'?

Author:  npalen [ Wed May 27, 2009 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

"""What's with the quotes around "imperial"?"""

Good question, Bob. I never know for sure what to call it, guess I'm used to "inch system" actually. :)

http://www.france-property-and-information.com/imperial-system-and-history.htm

Author:  Anthony Lembo [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ER20 Collets for spindles

Nelson,

I've had good luck with collets from US Shop Tools.

Get their ultra precision (UP) collets - .0002" TIR

ER-20's are $15 each.

http://www.usshoptools.com

Anthony

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