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Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:36 am ]
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My new Lenox carbide TriMaster blade managed to cut through a 8.5" thick piece of really dense ziricote , and some brazilian rosewood today. Here's a few pics of the Brazilian sides...









Ugly wood, but if someone has to be stuck with it, it may as well be me!


Author:  Brian Hawkins [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:07 am ]
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You're right Don, that is some ugly wood......probably totally useless, you should send it to me and I will get rid of it for you!! On the serious side, I hope you get a maximum yield from that stuff.

Author:  Don A [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:30 am ]
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Looks like the blade did a nice job. Wood isn't too bad either    What did you learn in school today.....maybe sharing? Don A38381.8128935185

Author:  Dickey [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:42 am ]
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The Lenox Trimaster does a fantastic job. I missed mine when it went away. Bob C turned me on to Suffolk's new carbide band, still very expensive, but the guy threw in a couple of Timberwolf ASS steel blades, which helped.

Don, looks like you sawed it straight and true, which I know is a great accomplishment. Nothing like slicing good tonewood.

Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:58 am ]
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I would have liked to try the new Timberwolf carbide blade, but I think they only offer it in a 1" blade. That's simply too much blade for my saw. Eventually I'm going to buy the 20" Grizzly G0507 bandsaw, and then I'll make that investment.
I was very happy with the quality of the cut. I had to do only minimal sanding between cuts just to take out the small irregularities. One or two light passes through the sander and it's ready to go back to the bandsaw.

Author:  Paul Schulte [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:13 pm ]
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Thanks for the tip on the source for those blades Don. That is some really nice wood you re-sawed there, should make some real nice guitars. Lucky guy!

Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:18 pm ]
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It should make a nice guitar...for someone. I'm probably going to end up selling this set.

For a LOT of money....


Don W38381.8466666667

Author:  Bobc [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:47 pm ]
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Wow! Don beautiful wood. Lately I've been using a Trimaster 1" blade and I like it a lot. Nice re-saw job my friend. Bobc38381.9088425926

Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:35 pm ]
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Thanks Bob.
This happens to be the 1/2" blade, with a .025" blade thickness, and a .054" kerf. Nice and slender to get around the 14" wheels without fatiguing it too badly.
Tomorrow I cut a couple more slices of the board for the backs to go with these sides. It was originally one 16" wide board, 2" thick and 40" long or so. There was a nasty bunch of cracks and splits in it off-center, leaving me with backs coming from one side, and sides from the other.Don W38383.3730324074

Author:  Tim McKnight [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:24 am ]
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Don:

Since I turned Bob onto the Tri-Master, and he did the same to Bruce, and he did the same to you, seems like there should be a small commision due to me ... Maybe like a set of that UGLY wood you have there

Author:  Wade Sylvester [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:18 am ]
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Nice pics Don,
Fresh! Exciting!
Is this the stuff you have had for a while?
Is it as nice as you had hoped?
Looks good to me. How much?

Wade

Author:  Matt Gage [ Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:29 am ]
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It`s about time Don!   
nice job,thats great looking stuff.

it must be a relife to have it come out with out any mishaps....now keep sawing, there is way to much wood in that shop of yours.


Hey! I made Groupie.



Gage Guitars38382.6467592593

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:07 am ]
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At best, I'll have two backs out of this board, and I managed only one more set of sides. Then I ran into some large fractures. I might only get a set for a OO or something smaller from the other half of the board for a back. But there are several other planks waiting to get some slices. But if the other half of the board won't yield full backs, it will at least yield sides. Or 3-piece backs perhaps.

Tim, I wish I could follow that line of thinking and have it make sense to me.   

Matt, you're always going to be a Groupie! You gotta post a LOT more than you do to make "Senior Member" around here...
But I know how to fix that problem...move your computer out of the house and into the shop!


Author:  Colin S [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:30 am ]
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Too late, I just built a parlour from that Brazilian wood.



Colin

Sorry about the flash, I must try and take better pics!

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:16 am ]
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WOW! SWEET!
                   

Author:  GCote [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:45 am ]
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Hey Don..
Were those Ziricote boards fresh off of the saw or did you toss them thru the sander.

Gary

Author:  Tim McKnight [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:50 am ]
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[QUOTE=Don W] Tim, I wish I could follow that line of thinking and have it make sense to me.   
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Hey Don: It was worth a try

Author:  Bobc [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:36 am ]
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Actually it was only the 1/2" Trimaster I hadn't tried. I've had the 1" for close to a year. So Don I think ya owe me Tim's braziian.

Author:  Brian Hawkins [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:52 am ]
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It's hard to believe that in the 70's Brazilian Back and side sets could be bought for about $35 a set!!

Author:  Brock Poling [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:17 am ]
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Somebody is going to be saying that in 35 years about the woods we are buying today for just a few bucks.

So we should stock up now.   

Author:  Brian Hawkins [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:36 am ]
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That's my plan!!

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:23 am ]
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Gary, I didn't show any pics of the ziricote! Those were all Brazilian. I can take a pic of the ziricote though if y'all want a pic. Not much to say there, just straight grained ziricote, nothing fancy, 8.5" wide or so, and very dense. The most dense ziricote I've come across. The cut wasn't as smooth as I would have liked, but it got through it, and that's the important thing. It has a very glass-like tap to it. Not the most stunning looking, but tonally it could be the best I've ever had. There's roughly 3 sets there, and I'm selling at least one of them at some point.

Don W38383.8097222222

Author:  GCote [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:39 am ]
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Don...
I didn't look at the pics real too much when I read the message plus I was on my 1st cup of coffee. But the same question, was the BRW right off the saw or did you toss it thru the sander??

Thanks Gary

Author:  Dickey [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:59 pm ]
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I think he says he cuts a slice, drum sands the next piece he's going to cut, then cuts another??? But that would be one side sanded, one side not, right off the saw....

I like to sand both sides to see if everything will clear up, eventually.

Hey Gary, how ya been?

Author:  Don Williams [ Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:07 pm ]
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Gary,
If you'll look at the top picture, you'll see sanding marks on the bottom piece. The top piece is right off the saw. Sometimes I get a clean enough cut to go right back to the saw, but most times I run the board back through the sander lightly to take out any minor irregularities, which will only be amplified in the next cut if they are left in. Just like Bruce thought.
What suprised me was how easily it cut the Brazilian compared to some cocobolo I cut on Sunday. The cocobolo was a lot more difficult for some reason. Go figure.

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