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Author:  bob J [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:45 am ]
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For those who bend a number of sides at a time or bend one set and then move to another project, what is the best way that you have found to store the bent sides?
Thanks,

Author:  Bruce Dickey [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:35 am ]
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clamped in the mold.

Author:  Hesh [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:53 am ]
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[QUOTE=Bruce Dickey]clamped in the mold.[/QUOTE]

Exactly!

Author:  Steve Walden [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:01 am ]
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Down here in south, high rel humidity, Texas that "clamped in the mold" has a different connotation.....


I think what he is asking is what do you do with bent sides when your mold (the guitar shaped one) is being used for another set of sides.  I would think that a flat board, 6" wide with stops nailed or glued at the neck and butt position with another board half the length of the waist dimension at that position you could keep the sides clamped in this while you built up the first set.


Author:  Steve Walden [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:03 am ]
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Or, if you have a bending mold just keep them clamped to it.  Even stacked I would think they would not relax too much...  Tho I am probably wrong.....

Author:  Hesh [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:32 am ]
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Good tips Steve.

Something else that you can do that requires no mold or jig is to tape the two sides together (like the buddy system for broken fingers) and then run tape from the ends to the other ends to keep the spring back from happening.  People like Stew-Mac, LMI etc. who will prebend sides for you ship them to you this way.


Author:  Dave Stewart [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:20 am ]
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Bob........this has worked well for me.


Just 8" dowels in MDF. Good for wood bindings too & keeps things safe from harm. You can induce a bit of overbend in the dowel placements



Author:  Dave Rector [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:30 am ]
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Cool idea Dave. Thanks!

Author:  Colin S [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:30 am ]
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If you check out the Taylor Factory Friday video on side bending they put them in a baton holder when taken out of the bender, similar to the one that Dave has above. If you haven't checked out the Factory Friday videos they are well worth looking in on.

Colin

Author:  Sam Price [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:33 am ]
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[QUOTE=Dave Stewart]

Bob........this has worked well for me.


Just 8" dowels in MDF. Good for wood bindings too & keeps things safe from harm. You can induce a bit of overbend in the dowel placements


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Brillaint idea! I've got some board & doweling PERFECT for the job...

Author:  Steve Walden [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:47 am ]
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I wish I had thought of that!!!!! Thanks Dave Stewart!


By the way, is that a v***a in the process of construction??


Author:  Dave Stewart [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:21 am ]
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Yeah, it's a definite KISS approach, kind of a V8 "smack on the head" idea.


The violin rims on form is a Guarnerius copy ("del Gesu" 1734). (With violins, you HHG the corner blocks to the form, shape & inlet the side pieces, install solid linings top & bottom, then break the blocks free & twist/persuade the form out of the assembly!)


Author:  bob J [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:48 pm ]
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Thanks,
My inarticulate question dealt with storing 4 to x pre-bent sides.
Thanks for the great ideas.

Author:  Danyeager [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:47 am ]
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Author:  Danyeager [ Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:06 am ]
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Now I see why the message occasionly follows the image in a separate post.


Most of my sides are three- and five-ply laminations, and the glue is a water-based two-part, so I allow the glueups to condition (dry out) for a week before shipping. The single sheet of 3/4 ply exposes maximum surface area of BOTH SIDES, which is critical, and I consider this a very important factor in the storage of solid lumber, as well.  I restrain them like this because the highly figured show ply on the outside face wants to go crazy and take the rest of the construction with it; after a week, no problem, excellent stability.


The side showh is a two-ply, no crossply, maple for a classical builder.  I was afraid that two laminations (grain same direction) would have a tendency to curl across the grain, but now I believe that equal drying area exposed on both sides minimized this.


Got a lot of sides to store? Don't invest in clamps, use big rubber bands.  Put little feet on the bottom plate, and store sides all over your house.


Dan


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