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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:34 am ] |
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I want to buy a selection of dyes (for adding to nitrocellulose lacquer) for doing sunburst finishes. I tend to prefer the 'tobacco' color schemes- ie browns rather than the extremely red style 'burst' pattern. Colors available in the Color FX dyes I'm looking at are: Burnt Umber Raw Umber Burnt Sienna Raw Sienna Van Dyke Brown Orange Shellac Aged Natural Cherry Medium Brown YellowG YellowR Orange Red Black I'd like to buy about a half-dozen (or fewer) of these shades- which will be the most useful? Thanks! John |
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| Author: | Dave Stewart [ Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:56 am ] |
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John...I had the same situation. I got amber colorFX from Woodessence, but they weren't able to relate a decent cross reference between colors (too many, too confusing, "which is tobacco brown!!). So I elected to go with Homestead TransTints (which Stewmac sells under colortone label & which they WILL ship to Canada). I got tobacco brown & red mahog. Maybe cherry in future. |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:52 am ] |
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Thanks for the info, Dave. Jeff at Woodessence got back to me within a few hours and suggested the Amber and Black, plus a several brown tints, including the Siennas and VanDyke. I'll figure out what to order after checking my wallet- at $15 a pop, it starts to add up quickly. Cheers John |
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| Author: | Dave-SKG [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:58 am ] |
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John I don't know what size bottle woodessence sells the tints in but if the same size as Stewmac and same product I think the cost is comparable. I have been using Stemac's color tone for several years and they last a long time. In fact the Yellow I had was so old it was an old formulation that didn't blend/mix well into nitro. I contacted stewmac and Erick sent me a new bottle for free! Now that's service too. |
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| Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:06 am ] |
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Most manufacturers will send you a color sheet showing typical stain color on some wood such as maple. Of course, this is a printed sheet, but it gives you a good idea. The umbers are more neutral; the siennas are more red. Van Dyke is usually the darkest brown. FWIW |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:16 am ] |
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Thanks for the tips on the 'artists color names', Howard. The colors I see online are often pretty 'approximate', so you are right about getting a printed sheet. Whenever I use dyes/stains (not often) I end up blending a couple of tints in most cases- thus the desire for a 'selection'. Dave- You are correct about these dyes lasting a long time. I'm coming to the end of my 'set' of dyes that I bought from Bill Lewis in the 70s! I guess it's an indication of my lack of use (guitar output) as well as long shelf life! Cheers John |
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| Author: | TonyKarol [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:15 am ] |
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I would certainly add the orange shellac to the list - I have about 7-8 of these dyes, and the shellac colour is great - has a touch of reddish orange to it for the centre of a burst with the vintage age built right in. The amber on its own is very yellow looking to me - it needs a touch of red and maybe brown to warm it in |
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