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Author:  Chris Ide [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:18 am ]
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I had to count my fingers after just watching this   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJGmwy YK8k
I think this a shaper with a saw blade attached, but maybe something else.
Author:  Don Williams [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:34 am ]
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OMG.... talk about a seriously dangerous tool.
That scares the heck out of me.
Author:  davidmor [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:35 am ]
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Here is the corrected link

That has to be the dumbest and scariest thing I think I have seen in a very long time.
Author:  John Watkins [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:48 am ]
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How is this more dangerous than a table saw? I don't see any functional difference other than the horizontal orientation and obviously the exposed back side of the blade.
Author:  Bob Garrish [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:49 am ]
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It looks scarier, for sure, but it is essentially a horizontal table saw as John said. Maybe a riving knife would help, given the depth of cut.
Author:  Alexandru Marian [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:15 am ]
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You would not want your dog or kid tangle in your feet while operating that :D 
Author:  davidmor [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:27 am ]
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Yeah I agree, it is basically a horizontal table saw, but what looks dangerous to me are a couple of things.  First, instead on only 1/8" of horizontal table space being taken up by the cutting edge, you now have 8" or 10" of table surface being taken up by a cutting edge.  That is a lot of additional cutting surface to keep clear of.  The other thing is how the guy was doing this with his fingers behind the blade until just before the end when he moved them without even using any sort of push stick, and no method to  hold the wood in place like a featherboard.  When a board kicks back on a table saw, it flies straight back.  If this thing was to kick back that piece of wood could fly in any direction. With the blade being horizontal, gravity takes over when the piece is cut through and that top piece could easily drop on the blade and have a tooth catch then 'zing'!

Maybe it just looks more dangerous because I can see the entire blade which I am not used to seeing, but it really is a scary looking tool.  I think I will keep my table saw in it's upright position!
Author:  npalen [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:44 am ]
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At least the operators eyes are not directly in line with the blade......but other body parts certainly are.
Author:  Allen McFarlen [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:00 am ]
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A very brave...or stupid man. But it sure does resaw quickly, doesn't it.
Author:  A Peebels [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:05 am ]
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Django played the guitar just fine with missing fingers.

Al
Author:  James W B [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:36 am ]
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I`ve been a Building Contractor for 30 years,and that`s just about as dumb as it gets.
                James
Author:  Shawn [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:22 am ]
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Amazing...I cant wait for the followup video on the discovery health channel where they show surgeons reattaching body parts because of a little kickback. I have seen other equally stupid things but this one is on the internet where the video will live for years...

I never make a table saw cut without at least a riving knife and then it is set to as close to the height of cut as possible to minimize teh possibility of kickback. Even then I use a push stick at a minimum and on my tablesaw and shaper always have hold down rollers or a power feeder.

I sold woodworking machinery for over 15 years so I saw the aftermath of many stupid injuries and a few deaths. Most I could not talk about in polite company.

Even though I have used a large table saw for over 40 years and am careful and confident of my skills, I am seriously considering selling 3 of my table saws (I way too much machinery and tools...) and getting a Saw Stop tablesaw after seeing it demonstrated.
Author:  Dennis Leahy [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:53 am ]
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[QUOTE=Shawn] Amazing...I cant wait for the followup video on the discovery health channel where they show surgeons reattaching body parts because of a little kickback.[/QUOTE] Man, that's the truth! I wouldn't even feed wood into that saw with a power feed! You couldn't pay me enough to use that insane saw.

[QUOTE=Shawn]... I am seriously considering selling 3 of my table saws ... and getting a Saw Stop tablesaw after seeing it demonstrated.[/QUOTE] Excellent wiener protection!

Seriously, I do think that is a very cool device. But knowing me, I'd be the guy who bought one, then went over to the bandsaw to make an ergonomic push stick for my brand new Saw Stop tablesaw, only to cut my finger off in the bandsaw.

Dennis
Author:  Robbie O'Brien [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:05 pm ]
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This is actually a very popular tool in Brazilian workshops. I used to buy Freud thin kerfed 10 inch sawblades in the States and open the arbor up to 35mm to fit this machine in Brazil. I then opened up a bunch of Brazilian Rosewood logs. Well actually the machine owner cut the BRW cause I was too chicken to do it not being used to this kind of machine.
Author:  peterm [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:24 pm ]
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Looks pretty effective.
Like Robbie, I have seen thise machines too...but never had seen one for guitar building use.
Author:  KenH [ Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:01 pm ]
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I have a shaper sitting there doing nothing... I would bet it is the same one as shown in the vid.... I still dont think I have the guts to try that feat with it.


Maybe if I could figure out some type of fingerboard for kickback and a push stick...


In order to resaw wood wide enough for guitar use, the blade would need to be 18" in diameter, or I suppose you could double cut the material with a 10" blade...
Author:  fryovanni [ Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:59 am ]
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I would never have the nerve to do that , personally I will stick with my bandsaw. At least if it grabs, it slams the wood against the table.
Author:  Billy T [ Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:33 pm ]
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I think it's time for another game of, "Quien Es Mas Macho"!
Author:  Doug-Guitar-Buckler [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:34 pm ]
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[QUOTE=A Peebels]Django played the guitar just fine with missing fingers.

Al[/QUOTE] The banjo picker for Mountain Heart is missing some fingers and he is incredible!
Author:  Jloc222 [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:37 pm ]
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Yeah, that thing is a little too insane for my tastes as well.  As mentioned its like a horizontal table saw, but there are two reason why I think ice sales would go up if that thing became more popular. One as already mentioned, the blade is completely exposed and the danger area is greatly expanded and two instead of the blade being parallel to your arms like a table saw, your arms are now perpendicular to the blade, which makes accidents more likely, I believe.  I guess I might be ok with using it while lying on my side, but thats about it, well on my side or in one of those chainmail shark suits, either way  


Jason 
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