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Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:38 am ]
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As some of you know I have just switched from building one guitar at a time till complete and in the finish booth to batch building. This was driven because I got so far behind over the winter and spring due to my car accident and really bad weather.

I am now about 2 weeks into my first attempt at batch building 2 at a time and I have to say I feel like I am 3 weeks a head already. I suspect it will slow down some as I get into post bracing tuning, binding and prep sanding. But I think I like it I actually feel like I am working more efficient.

The one area that I am having problems is keeping my benches clean and the saw room picked up but I have always had that issue With all the kids grown and gone I sure miss the free remedial labor
Author:  JHerrick [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:06 am ]
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[QUOTE=MichaelP]I suspect it will slow down some as I get into post bracing tuning, binding and prep sanding.[/QUOTE]


I also moved a couple years ago to building 2 at a time. I do find it more efficient..it certainly FEELS that way. I think it helps to try to keep them in parallel as much as possible. Then where things are more sequence dependent you can easily move to that mode as well. What do I mean by that? Finishing comes most to mind. I can be spraying and waiting on dry time on one, while I'm sanding out the other. One guitar is always in the booth, and the other is out being worked over.


I sometimes have problems getting one further along than the other. Then you miss out on the efficiencies of having a tool or jig all set up and ready to go for BOTH.


[QUOTE=MichaelP]
The one area that I am having problems is keeping my benches clean and the saw room picked up but I have always had that issue   [/QUOTE]


Multiple builds certainly aggravates this issue. I went and got a small wheel around cart from Lowes. The one I got is one of the chrome kitchen grate types (doesn't catch sawdust ) about 18" wide x 24" long with 3 shelves. This helps me keep all my parts together in one place and not cluttering up various benches. Wheels make it easy to move in, around, and out of the way as needed.


Joe


 
Author:  Don Williams [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:13 am ]
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Yeah Michael, I agree it works great.
If you've got a lot of experience, it's a much more efficient way, but we should caution newbies to stick with the one-at-a-time method until they've really cut their teeth. Otherwise, they can fall into the abyss of making the same mistake on several guitars. Been there.
Author:  davidmor [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:52 am ]
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I am getting ready to start two guitars for Christmas gifts which will be pretty much identical with some trim exceptions.  I am planning on batch building them.  I have been building 2 at a time since March but they are at different stages.  I start a new build when I have one getting close to the sanding stage.
Author:  Mattia Valente [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:12 am ]
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I only 'batch build' different kinds of instruments at the moment; I may start a pair of acoustics soon, but they'll be different sizes/designs/details overall, so not too confusing. But I try to have at least one electric and one acoustic going at all times. The advantage of always having something to do, some repetitive things that are the same for all of them can be done together (say, fingerboard/neck work), but they're different enough that I can't get confused as to which guitar it is I'm actually working on.
Author:  Steve Walden [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:13 am ]
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MichealP wrote: "The one area that I am having problems is keeping my benches clean and the saw room picked up but I have always had that issue "


We ought to get our buddy Hesh to give us lessons on keeping our shops clean!


Maybe a tutorial? 
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:17 am ]
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Mine are in semi the same stage. meaning I bent in secession, I jointed then joined plates at the in secession. I cut rosette pieces in secession. Routed rosette channels in secession. I assembled and lined rims in secession. Tonight I will be inlaying rosettes again in secession. and this weekend I will brace back and top plates in secession. I don't think I would like having them where one is a stage or two in front of the other becuse that would lead to switching mind sets going from one process to the other.
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:17 am ]
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Cut - vacuum, cut - vacuum, sweep, cut........................... 
Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:22 am ]
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[QUOTE=WaldenWorx]

MichealP wrote: "The one area that I am having problems is keeping my benches clean and the saw room picked up but I have always had that issue "


We ought to get our buddy Hesh to give us lessons on keeping our shops clean!


Maybe a tutorial? 

[/QUOTE]

Hesh?? He is neat but the one to learn from is Lance. I have known lance to be hospitalized for a month over a microscopic squeeze out showing at the joint of the Butt block and linings that he once missed Just teasing Lance
Author:  WaddyThomson [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:25 am ]
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Bill Green could show us all a thing or two too.  His shop is dustless, chipless, and totally clean too.  With him though it is a necessity due to his wife's sensitivity to wood dust.
Author:  Don Williams [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:54 am ]
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Yeah, true....but as I know Bill pretty well, I know he's just pretty OCD about stuff in general. Right Bill?

He's sort-of like me. Except I fail at the implementation stage of the disease.


Author:  Sam Price [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:02 am ]
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I've only got room for one guitar at a time...at at my stage, one guitar is very attention seeking as it is!!
Author:  Bill Greene [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:40 am ]
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[QUOTE=Don Williams] Yeah, true....but as I know Bill pretty well, I know he's just pretty OCD about stuff in general. Right Bill?

He's sort-of like me. Except I fail at the implementation stage of the disease.


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I am not OCD. Nope. Not. Really. I mean it. Why would you even call me that? OCD? What does that even mean, OCD. OCD. Ridiculous you'd even think that. Ha, I'm about as NON-OCD as anybody you'd ever meet.   
Author:  James W B [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:00 am ]
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I like a little mess in the shop.It proves there`s some work going on.No offense to Hesh.I know he works hard,it just looks like he works harder cleaning up than building guitars. I`ll be back up to A2 one of these days.I promise everyone out there I`ll go to Hesh`s shop and make a big mess.Keep up the good work Michael.        &nbs p;      James
Author:  KenH [ Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:18 pm ]
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I like it too Michael!


The only drawback I can see is that I begin liking the latest one better than the one before.  It does give me a chance to try new things though.


 


 
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