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| Author: | LanceK [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:04 am ] |
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Anyone doing it? I have often thought about doing this after working with cocobolo and a few other "toxic" woods. I think the sooner that dust gets out of there the better! I don't want to develop an allergies to my favorite wood. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | Pwoolson [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:15 am ] |
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Yup! It's kind of creepy at first but works wonders. The good old nasal dousche. |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:29 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Pwoolson] Yup! It's kind of creepy at first but works wonders. The good old nasal dousche.[/QUOTE] Hey...if Paul and the rest of the Wisconsinites can keep cheese curds out of their sinuses then coco dust should be a breeze! 
Seriously, I've heard nothing but good things regarding nasal irrigation. It takes some practice to do it properly but you should be able to handle it in no time at all. Please don't post pics! 
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| Author: | LanceK [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:30 am ] |
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"Please don't post pics!" Darn! JJ your no fun! 
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| Author: | Kim [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:49 am ] |
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Lance, I'll share with you a very old and secret Aussie wood working technique: Sit in the sea and do somersaults three, no need for a hose breath in through thy nose, the brine it do best to rid of thy pest, the dust it be gone for those who take head.
You can either do that or wear a dust mask, both work pretty good.
Cheers Kim |
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| Author: | JimWomack [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:11 am ] |
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I vote for the dust mask! |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:16 am ] |
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I use a dust mask, and have a delta air cleaner over head, and use a down draft table hooked to my cyclone collector. I still have saw dust in my sinus. That is a clever rhyme tho!
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| Author: | Kim [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:02 am ] |
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Hey Lance, Would appreciate a link with some detail regarding nasal irrigation. On a side note, one thing to seriously consider is skin exposure. I used to make and fit timber staircases for a living. It was dusty, hard, heavy and hot work, some wood dust would react with the sweat in the skin creases at the joints of my inner elbow and behind my knees long before it would mess with the nasal passage. And this work was done when young and stupid, most times without a mask. This clearly demonstrated to me that the largest and most exposed organ of the human body should not be neglected. Could be that one who goes on to develop an allergy in the respiratory system to a particular kind of wood dust does so as a symptom of sensitivity bought on by constant exposure to the skin. No experience here with coco, but I would wear long sleeves and a mask as a matter of course. Just me 2 cents. Cheers Kim |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:21 am ] |
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Good advise Kim. Bruce Dickey could tell you a thing or two about coco exposure to the skin 
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:50 am ] |
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Lance, are you using a dust mask or a respirator? There's a BIG difference. Saline solution does work wonders though. |
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| Author: | LanceK [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:45 am ] |
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Just a dust mask, I cant see my self waring a respirator, maybe for a few certain tasks, but not in general. I have thought about one of those deals that fit like a hard hat, and blow fresh filtered air across your face, keeping the bad stuff out. |
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| Author: | Cocephus [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:05 am ] |
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I`ve been pretty healthy all my life, but this past winter I was diagnosed with allergies after infections that would go away and come right back after a month or so. Doc prescribed Allegra, which seems to help alot, but just isn`t quite doing the trick completely. What does this sinus irrigation consist of (I`m too lazy to go poking around at a thousand websites and junk e-mails to find info)? Is there a doctor in the house? |
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| Author: | Heath Blair [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:18 am ] |
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a few months ago i had surgery for a deviated septum. basically my honker was all crooked inside and restricted the air flow through my nasal passages. so i had a doctor staighten it out for me. not much fun, but the results were great. so... after the surgery the doc had me "rinse" my sinuses a few times a day for a couple of weeks. it worked so well, i just kept it up. there are different methods, but basically i have a small water bottle-ish type thing that i fill with deionized water and this "special" saline solution. warm it up a bit, place it in one nostril, squeeze, and out comes the solution from the other nostril! it was really crazy at first, but it keeps everything nice and tidy up there. im not sure if i can upload pictures from my camera, but a tutorial might be hillarious. also check out neilmed.com |
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| Author: | Bill Bergman [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:18 pm ] |
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A Yogi instructor metntioned the technique and pointed out that somethimes you can trap water up there and have it suddenly spill out without warning, if your technique is not corrct. So, don't plan on gong to formal parties immediatley afterwards. |
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| Author: | Kim [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:01 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] I had the same surgery when I was 17 also for a deviated rectum but I am not sure it helped at all....... [/QUOTE]
Hmm sounds like having ones nose bent out of shape and blocking the airways could be a very good thing under these circumstances. 
Cheers Kim |
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| Author: | Don A [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:56 pm ] |
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Here is a link that Ken McKay posted about a year ago in another thread here on the OLF. Nasal Lavage Enjoy. 
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| Author: | Billy T [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:03 pm ] |
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I was diagnosed with a deviated cerebellum, it's inoperable!
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| Author: | Sam Price [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:30 pm ] |
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:09 am ] |
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| I had a feeling this thread would go looney
and sure nuff! Hesh, You crack me up!!
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| Author: | joe white(old) [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:26 am ] |
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I have had three nose/nasal cavity surgeries and had to do the irrigation thing. Basically, my Doc gave me an adapter for a water pic and a recipe for the solution and I had to do it three times a day. It is true that the sinus cavities can trap and store some of the solution and it will come out later when you bend over. happened to me on the Harley at a light, at a fast food place when I dropped change, at work after lunch and several times when I leaned down to kiss my little girls . Once you get the hang of doing it, it actually feels refreshing! BTW, you want to start out with the lowest setting of the water pic, don't ask me how I know this
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:39 am ] |
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I think Hank Mauel knows a thing or two about sensitivites to exotics too. Gosh guys, if you are getting exotic dust up your nose, you are flat asking for it. Who was the guy that has the cyclone you can build yourself? He had to quit woodworking due to problems with exotic dusts. When I first started I remember blowing my nose in the shower and getting the mud sludgies out of there and down the drain. That's a bad sign. Your dust mask or collection just isn't working well enough. I have gone to a respirator, the same one I use when spraying nitro, when sawing exotics. Just last week I took some Madagascar Ebony slices off a fingerboard edge, paired it with a handle of Mexican Bocote. A lot of sanding and a little drilling and some epoxy and out popped a couple of nice conductor batons for leading a choir or orchestra. (my daughter-in-law is making a music director and it was her birthday) I thought nothing of it, wore my dust mask, but was wearing shorts, flipflops and a tee shirt. Later, no problem with my nasal or lungs, but my skin on all exposed skin was burning. That was several hours later. It hit me that just the tiny exposure to those two exotics dust was burning in. I can't imagine what it would do to nasal and lungs. Anyway, Bill Pentz, shows how to build a cyclone and mainly it was his cautions on human sensitivities to these exotics. Down to walking through the shop and just stirring up latent dust lying on the floor of the shop, airborne it goes and oh, no mask, and well, it's minor but it accumulates over time, the exposure thing. Makes me want to start vacuuming my shop floor on a regular basis. Great article by Bill on his dilemna. Hank's problem may have been solvents and exotics? Hank? It's always good to have these discussions for the new ones coming along. |
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| Author: | Bruce Dickey [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:47 am ] |
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http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/Index.cfm#Foreword Read this article from Bill Pentz, bd |
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