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I agree with the comment earlier. I would like to see the cutaway being flush with the fb.

I like the modern looking florentine the best (think Bashkin) but of the venetians, I like A the best.


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This latest image looks the best to me. I agree that the cutaway not
coming flush to the fretboard is going to be pretty uncomfortable.


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Don't listen to the Florentine Naysayers....!!

The florentine is the most elegent of the cutaway styles by far. That said, on this particular guitar body, I would like to see:

1. The cutaway flush with the fretboard as others have said.
2. The cutaway curve out from the fretboard and downward/outward and then curveback in just north of the waist. This would involve a larger radius coming off the fretboard, and cutting out a lot of the cutaway itself as shown in figure C. The line would run at about 240-250 degrees coming out of the curve, then would have a curve the same radius as that coming off the fretboard area, going into the area just past the waist.

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You know everyone says that but if you think about it you cant reach around the body depth with out flatting the palm to accommodate the depth of the body anyway (unless you have a foot long palm) so that 1/8-1/4" of body surface is not really in the way at all. Go pick up a cutaway a play down there I think you will see what I mean. So It really boils down to aesthetics. If any of you play down there with you thumb on the back of the guitar let me know and I will retract my statment


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This guitar is 16 1/4" LB 1 1/4" larger than an OM


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A, but flush to the board.

I rarely see florentine cutaways I like; they just seem to clash with the overall curviness that defines acoustics. They're just too...pointy. Same reason a cutaway that's not flush to the neck (ie, flowing smoothly into it, no sharp corners) doesn't look quite right.


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Michael, it's not the back that I'd be worried about but rather the top of the cutaway right by the fingerboard. If you do any sort of slide up the fretboard, you'll hit it with the palm of your hand. (of course this info coming from someone that never gets above the 5th)
I've tried that on Taylors and HATE the feeling of banging into the cutaway.


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[QUOTE=MichaelP] You know everyone says that...So It really boils down to aesthetics. [/QUOTE]

Exactly. It looks better if it merges right in under the fretboard. Trust us!

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I vote A.

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OK I relent and will make neck blocks a side thickness narrower than the fretboard so that my cutaway will be flush with the fretboard. but I am sticking to a stiletto heel


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I vote B!!!!!  I love the look - just don't think I could pull of the bend! 

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B is easier to bend than C because it has lager radius to the bends. It is the tight bends especially under 1-1/4" radius that have bit me in the past.


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[QUOTE=MichaelP] OK I relent and will make neck blocks a side thickness narrower than the fretboard so that my cutaway will be flush with the fretboard. but I am sticking to a stiletto heel [/QUOTE]
The stiletto heel is fine. I'm not opposed to having it stick out on the bottom (though asthetically I don't care for that look). It won't effect the playability of the guitar that way.
You're making the right choice by making it flush to the fingerboard.


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I would defiantly like the the cutaway included in the plans because it would be so easy to adapt for a non cutaway. Just trace the normal side and their you go. You've got your half template. The bracing would also only be altered very slightly.

I think I like "A" the best.


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Don't like cutaways. So just ignore me.

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Yea me either much! But 6 out of ten clients want them.


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So after careful deliberations this is what I believe I t will look like. I will include it on the MJ plans for the library of plans. That might push us into a 4 page set.



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[QUOTE=MichaelP] This guitar is 16 1/4" LB 1 1/4" larger than an OM[/QUOTE]

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I voted A but I don't like Veneitian cutaways so.........................

Who cares


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i would prefer the florentine as well. dine there is a bit of difference of opinion among the mob, why not have a sheet where the various cutaway shapes are all available as details with index lines to enable them to be accurately included in the working drawing on the plate.


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How about something like this:


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That would make it a Breedlove


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Well, that's not a bad thing, is it?

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