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 Post subject: Luthier tools in EU?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:42 am 
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I guess I can’t kick this bad habit completely. I’m in Spain, and I realize I do want to still tinker on guitars.

Is there an EU source for nut/saddle blanks, nut files, fret dressing tools, etc.? The kind of stuff you might buy from StewMac if you were in the USA?


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Doesn’t Madinter offer most things from SM now? In fact, weren’t they acquired by SM?

https://www.madinter.com/en/accessories ... d&q=saddle

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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:23 am 
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Also https://maderasbarber.com/tonewood/en/
They can be less expensive for some things,

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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G & W too, Portugal I believe, same neck of the wood.
[url]Guitarsandwoods.com[/url]

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.



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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:24 am 
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UK based, but ships anywhere - (not just radius dishes by a long chalk)
Good prices, up and coming supplier.
https://www.radiusdishuk.com/luthier-online-shop/

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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I think Crimson Guitars sells a lot of tools specific to building/repairing. I've never ordered from them tho.

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You can still buy from Stewmac - if you pay for their Stewmax membership they will ship stuff - internationally - for free.



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joshnothing wrote:
internationally - for free.


It’s crazy isn’t it?


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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bcombs510 wrote:
joshnothing wrote:
internationally - for free.


It’s crazy isn’t it?


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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.



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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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You can still buy from Stewmac - if you pay for their Stewmax membership they will ship stuff - internationally - for free.

Wow. Really? Thanks for the other links as well.

I’ve relocated to Europe for a few years, and the first blow was I couldn’t ship any of my guitars. I posted a question here on how to ship from USA to Europe and got no responses. UPS quoted me $1400 per guitar. Yikes! No wonder I got no responses. No one must ever ship a guitar!

I haven’t bought a guitar in 20+years, but I was breaking out in a cold sweat not being able to play. I probably practice 2-3hrs a day normally. So I ordered a cheap Chinese guitar and, guess what? It never made it through customs!

Ok, ok. Full blown panic. I ordered a guitar from Thomann. It arrived, but the setup is sh@t (pardon my French)* Now I need to cut the nut; level, crown, and dress frets; oil a tragically dried out fretboard; set the truss rod, intonation and action. Can’t do that without my magic kit (that I donated to a friend’s kid thinking I was “done with lutherie”).

So I’ll have to burry the Scotsman in me and repurchase tools and a few nut blanks (because you always need nut blanks). Preferably without the customs and VAT nightmare that prevented me from getting a guitar from China.

Has anyone ordered StewMac into the EU? Did it go smoothly, or did you have problems at customs?

*some of you may comment that I have complained about German quality control, quoted a stereotype about my ancestors from Scotland, casually disparaged the French, all while writing in English from Spain. Apologies to everyone; unless you’re Japanese in which case you’ve probably just had a good laugh.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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I have a SM membership and have no problems here in UK.
Can't say for EU....

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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Ha ha, reminds me when I lived in Spain for a few years and bought a VW Bug so I could get around. The bug was a good deal but needed an engine rebuild. No biggie, I’d done several and figured it wouldn’t cost too much. Wrong. Between VAT and other taxes and fees I ended paying more than double what the same parts would cost in the US. On the plus side Spain is beautiful, I hope you enjoy your time there.


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 Post subject: Re: Luthier tools in EU?
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when you order at StewMac, in Germany you have to pay tax, 19%.
In Germany you can look for luthier tools at
https://www.dictum.com
https://shop.rall-online.net/
https://tlcguitargoods.com, I think in Netherland
https://shellex.com/ , for nuts and saddels and inlays


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Colin North wrote:
G & W too, Portugal I believe, same neck of the wood.
[url]Guitarsandwoods.com[/url]

+1 for G&W in Portugal. Have a look at their website, they have lots of very interesting tools, some way cheaper and similar to SM's. I'm in Canada and have bought quite a few items from them.


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rlrhett wrote:
Ok, ok. Full blown panic. I ordered a guitar from Thomann. It arrived, but the setup is sh@t (pardon my French)* Now I need to cut the nut; level, crown, and dress frets; oil a tragically dried out fretboard; set the truss rod, intonation and action. Can’t do that without my magic kit (that I donated to a friend’s kid thinking I was “done with lutherie”).

So I’ll have to burry the Scotsman in me and repurchase tools and a few nut blanks (because you always need nut blanks). Preferably without the customs and VAT nightmare that prevented me from getting a guitar from China.



At the risk of sounding facetious- if it’s just one guitar, rather than rebuy hundreds of bucks of tools, deal with international borders etc couldnt you just take your axe to a luthier to be setup..?


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