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 Post subject: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:10 am 
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I have a 9" Delta in the assembly shop that is used a lot but just for simple (small) cutoffs, etc. and an occasional scroll cut. Yesterday when I was working on bracing a top (making many small cuts on thin pieces) we both noticed the smell of smoke. It was obviously from the little band saw, apparently the motor. We vacuumed it out completely and looked for errant pieces of wood that might be stuck inside but found nothing. It continues to work but I suspect I'll soon be in the market for a new one. Just looking for advice on which brand to replace it with. This thing only cost $100 or so when I bought it 30 years ago, wish I could just buy another like it. P.S. I'd rather not buy anything made in China.


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:17 pm 
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I’d be looking at Rikon...


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:48 pm 
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meddlingfool wrote:
I’d be looking at Rikon...

Rikon was my first thought but I can't figure out where they're made.


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
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jshelton wrote:
Rikon was my first thought but I can't figure out where they're made.


Google says, " RIKON's ISO9001 certified factory in located in Qingdao, China. In addition to being officially IS09001 certified, they utilize the systems of 6-Sigma and 5S Management."


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:53 pm 
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I have a secondary bandsaw that I use for things like you mention--I picked up a used Shopsmith 11 inch saw, and it works very well. I run mine on a Shopsmith (that I use as a horizontal boring machine), but it can be set up with a regular motor too. American made, and can be had for a decent price if you shop around.

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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:37 pm 
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https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzl ... ide/g0803z

ALL the specs for this machine are on their website. They sell parts for this machine too.

Made in an ISO 9001 factory (China)

SPECIFICATIONS:

Motor: 1/3 HP, 120V, single-phase, 2.8A
Max. cutting width left of blade: 9"
Max. cutting height (resaw capacity): 3-5/8"
Blade guides: Ball-bearing upper & lower
Table size: 12" x 12"
Table tilt: 0 - 45°
Blade size: 61-13/16" - 62-3/16" (1/8" - 3/8" wide)
Blade speed: 2460 FPM
Overall dimensions: 20-3/4" W x 17" D x 29-1/2" H
Footprint: 6-1/2" x 15-1/2"
Approximate shipping weight: 49 lbs.
FEATURES:

Laser Sight
Adjustable Wheels for Alignment/Coplanarity
Fence Adjustable for Blade Lead
Rack & Pinion Table Tilt
Ball-Bearing Blade Guides
Quick-Release Blade Tension Lever
Extruded Aluminum Rip Fence with Camlock Handle
Lower Wheel Brush to Prevent Build-Up of Dust/Pitch on Wheel
2" Dust Port
Chip Blower
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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
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Sounds like it might be a capacitor that could be faulty, these only cost a fiver, and are a 30 second job to replace.
Is there any bulging of it?

Does your motor have a terminal cover for the capacitor?
If it does, then make sure whilst shopping around to get one the same dimensions so it can still fit inside the shroud/cover

I believe you only need to match the microfarad rating which is this symbol μF
A bad cap is definitely the most common thing to go wrong on a single phase induction motor.
Maybe take it off and give us a picture of it.

A centrifugal switch is another thing to go, if your motor has one...it may not.
If it has one, then you will likely have heard a click when you turn off the machine?
If that is the issue then you may need to clean the contact points of it.

If you are taking the motor off to check this..
which might just be a good idea anyway, to check for dust packing terminal housing or damage of the winding insulation inside the shroud/terminal cover, and are in contact with each other causing a short

And if you delve further and open up the motor.... before you disassemble the end bells, get a marker and draw a line or tape a line down
to aid reassembly of the end bells again, as it might make things easier.to do.

I'm not an expert on things whatsoever, but hope this helps.
Tom


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
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It looks like every one of these bench top band saws is made in China. How disappointing! Hopefully I can fix the one I have by following the generous advice. It's not a critical piece of equipment since I have two others (14" Delta, Hitachi resaw) but I like the current arrangement.


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:06 am 
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Jet tools used to be made in Taiwan--don't know whether or not that's still the case. But they do make a 10" tabletop bandsaw.

Dave


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
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Tom G wrote:
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I believe you only need to match the microfarad rating which is this symbol μF
A bad cap is definitely the most common thing to go wrong on a single phase induction motor.
Maybe take it off and give us a picture of it....


Match the capacitance (uF) rating and the voltage rating too.

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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
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And it may have two capacitors depending on the motor--a start cap and a run cap. The run cap will be there if you have the centrifugal switch mentioned earlier.


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 Post subject: Re: 9" band saw
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:46 pm 
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For a light duty bandsaw the old 12 craftsman in the plastic housing can work well. Although not a bench top saw per se, it can be made into one by mounting the motor beside it instead of under it. The plastic housing makes them fairly light weight so if you mount the saw and motor separately they can be as handy as a typical bench top saw. They usually sell for cheap, but so do many better quality woodworking tools these days. If you have room to keep it on it's stand the addition of castors makes this light weight saw a breeze to push into some odd corner and out of the way until you need it. They take 80 inch blades which are not hard to find and being two wheel are easy to track.
That being said, putting a new motor on your old friend might be the best option if everything else is in good working order.


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