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Author:  cablepuller1 [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Rosette/sound hole inspiration needed
Hi

Please attach pictures of your rosette sound hole edging

I'm in desperate need of inspiration, particularly dark woods surrounding the sound hole, im really stuck for what to do with mine, have some bogoak I can use, abalone,rosewood and some other bits

Tia

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Author:  Peter J [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:40 pm ]
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I've always been a fan of Michihiro Matsuda. He is always thinking "out of the box" and has some very clean, contemporary designs. You might find a bit of inspiration here that isn't quite along the "traditional" vein. YMMV

https://www.flickr.com/photos/matsudagu ... 947267253/
Author:  Hans Mattes [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:12 pm ]
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The rosette is only for decoration -- so, IMHO, it should harmonize with your headplate, your binding and purfling, your fretboard and bridge, and your tail decor (wedge or ?). And they should all harmonize with each other -- and with the wood species used for the top and for the sides and back. When you're finished the guitar will look more "put together" if they all do. If possible, all these elements should be chosen early in the build process. Matsuda does a wonderful job at that.

I've seen some truly beautiful rosettes that actually detracted from the guitar (again, IMHO) because they had no relevance to anything else in the build.
Author:  cablepuller1 [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rosette/sound hole inspiration needed
Hans Mattes wrote:
The rosette is only for decoration -- so, IMHO, it should harmonize with your headplate, your binding and purfling, your fretboard and bridge, and your tail decor (wedge or ?). And they should all harmonize with each other -- and with the wood species used for the top and for the sides and back. When you're finished the guitar will look more "put together" if they all do. If possible, all these elements should be chosen early in the build process. Matsuda does a wonderful job at that.

I've seen some truly beautiful rosettes that actually detracted from the guitar (again, IMHO) because they had no relevance to anything else in the build.
Thanks, this was what I'm thinking, I have some spare bogoak that matches the back/sides and headplate

But might be a bit too much dark wood ?

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Author:  jfmckenna [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:57 pm ]
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I learned that the rosette was not solely for decoration but to strengthen around the opening of the sound hole. I do believe there is some truth to this but perhaps not.
Author:  Ruby50 [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:09 pm ]
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This is my last one - all Alaskan Yellow Cedar including the neck. The binding and the soundhole binding is black plastic, but any dark wood would look nice there

Ed
Author:  DennisK [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rosette/sound hole inspiration needed
Here's my very first one. I need to do another this style sometime, with imagery over a solid ring background framed by purfling rings.
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All the ones I've done since have been open designs, with imagery inlaid straight into the softwood. I often put something at the top left corner, oriented so it doesn't look upside down in either hanging on the wall or playing position. And usually a painting inside the soundhole, which may or may not combine with the rosette.
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The harp guitar is probably my favorite. Quite a challenge coming up with how to do those thorns, and the proper sequence to get the vines intertwined without any gaps, and getting the whole thing shellacked without the rosewood tree branch from bleeding everywhere. And the pumpkin's face is actually cut through to the inside of the soundbox :) I had originally planned to glue gold MOP to the back side of it so the face would be recessed and look like it's glowing from inside. But I like this even better.
Author:  Clay S. [ Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:59 pm ]
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If you did a typical veneer type rosette in bog oak with a thin line of paua within it, and then use it for position markers and possibly an peghead inlay it might be fairly easy to do and look nice .
A shell design inlaid into the bog oak similar to japanese lacquerware might look nice but be a little more work.
https://www.rubylux.com/item/1429688-AS ... quer-Box78
http://www.creative-museum.com/en/conte ... -hairpin-3
Author:  banjopicks [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:26 am ]
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Wow wow wow! Now I have to learn to do that!
Author:  Bob Orr [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:45 am ]
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This is my last one, 84 hand cut pieces of maple veneer set in a bog oak dust/epoxy mix with bwb purfling on either side.

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Author:  banjopicks [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:05 am ]
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Dang, add another year on to my build process.
Author:  Skarsaune [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:06 am ]
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Nice work Dennis K, way to get out of the box.
Author:  Bri [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:24 am ]
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I have been using spalted maple ala Greenfield andDannyV. Partly because I have a pile of spalted cut-offs, but mostly because I think it looks great.
Author:  Aaron O [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:48 pm ]
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I used to do simple shell inlay, and now do my true "radial rosette", unless its a custom request.
Anybody see joints? There are none (there’s a spalt gap that I left in).

Most of my binding is koa, so it disappears in the context of the whole build, intentionally.
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Author:  banjopicks [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rosette/sound hole inspiration needed
You guys are all thinking outside the box. I have to build another guitar just to try some of these ideas out.
Author:  Pat Foster [ Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:23 pm ]
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Here's one from a few years back. The dark wood is ziricote, as are the B&S and headplate.

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Author:  Mark Mc [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rosette/sound hole inspiration needed
A few years ago Robbie O’Brien compiled a collection of rosette designs contributed by members of OLF and other forums. You can see it in this video (the gallery of rosettes starts at about 7:30).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxfdpbfw_U
Author:  Colin North [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:37 am ]
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Redwood Burl outlined with plain old BWB
Author:  Colin North [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:04 am ]
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Little fancier, on a hybrid classical. Spalted beech/thin herringbone, with 1mm BWB inside, 1.3mm BWB outside the bones.
Author:  Michaeldc [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:30 am ]
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Here are a couple,
Author:  Colin North [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:40 am ]
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Mr Colbert, that is really crisp clean work.
Author:  Michaeldc [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:59 am ]
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Colin North wrote:
Mr Colbert, that is really crisp clean work.


Thanks,

To be honest and up front, the channels are cut cnc. All of the purflings are cut, mitered and installed by hand.

M
Author:  Pmaj7 [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:33 pm ]
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Curly maple on spruce & abalone on redwood.ImageImage

Pat
Author:  Alan Carruth [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:40 pm ]
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Here's one from a classical guitar I'm working on. The woods are all natural colors. I make the parts using hand plane jigs, and build up the rosette in place.

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Here's how I use this on steel strings.

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Author:  Pmaj7 [ Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rosette/sound hole inspiration needed
Alan, what is the shiny material in the first one?

Pat
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