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Author:  Brad Goodman [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:31 pm ]
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Here’s something a little different…
The top is aromatic red cedar.
I was at the lumberyard I saw this 4 foot wide by 12 foot long by 2 inches thick piece and they cut a piece off the end for me.
Mostly quartersawn.
The back and sides are quilted maple there’s no stain used that’s the natural color of it.
Honduran mahogany neck
24.9 inch scale
nitro finish
Cocobolo bindings
Rubner tuners

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Author:  jfmckenna [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:37 pm ]
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That's awesome. Bet it smells great too and you won't have to worry about moths eating it :D

How does she sound?

Author:  rbuddy [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:11 pm ]
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Very nice and the back bookmatch is nothing short of outstanding.

I always wondered about WAC as a tone wood. When I've lined closets with it it was always full of knots and poor grain for luth work.

But it seemed very hard and stiff and I'd use it in a minute if I could find it as you described your find at the lumberyard.

Author:  Bruce Sexauer [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:35 pm ]
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Very interesting! I have thought your top wood choice a bit brittle, though I have never used it except for closet lining. If you got it this far, I doubt it will suddenly shatter :) .

Author:  Chris Pile [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:14 pm ]
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Awesome!

Author:  meddlingfool [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:58 pm ]
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Neat!

Author:  Ruby50 [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:28 pm ]
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Beautiful, Brad. How does it sound??

Ed

Author:  Brad Goodman [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:13 pm ]
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It sounds great!

It’s always hard to describe sound , isn’t it?

It’s got very sweet shimmery trebles ..

Nice robust bass with good note separation. And it’s pretty loud

It’s only a day old and the lacquer is still very soft so it’s definitely a winner

I have another triple 0 12 fret (Adi top with walnut back and sides with a side port) and on a side-by-side comparison this one sounds a little “tighter “ the other on “mellower”
But that one is half a year old ...


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Author:  Brad Goodman [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:16 pm ]
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Author:  bcombs510 [ Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:17 pm ]
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Brad, it looks great. Good to see something new. :)

Question on the Rubner tuners - I have a uke set I'm getting ready to finally use. I've had them around for a long time. They have a little bump on each bracket. Does the set you used here have that as well? If so, how did you deal with it? Make a small divot in the headstock to let it sit flat? File them off? I read that's a bad idea but I cannot find the article where I read that now.

Other Brad

Author:  Ken Nagy [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:42 am ]
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Wow, that must have been a huge tree. The cedar seems to have a lot of sinking, and shine to it. Those tuners are different, I like the way they look. It looks like they come on a faceplate?

One of the things that draws me more to guitar making is the chance to use different woods; violins are almost entirely spruce and maple. Of course when someone finishes them up so well, it lures you in too.

I have a 14.5" long Strad baroque that I'm ready to start putting together. I have a 3 mm thick piece of 100+ year old Eastern Red Cedar barn wood for the belly. It is heavier than WRC (.47sg, so it is in a different ball park), and the charts say that while WRC has a low E modulus of 1.1, ERC is only .88! The original only had two crossbars above and below the sound hole. I was thinking of doing a X brace from the top to the bottom; like what Bruce Sexauer did on his Snakewood build, but with the narrow body, and low bridge placement it would go all the way to the top and bottom. Like crossed Parallel bars. I did build a similar one for the grandsons a couple (few?) years ago, with five, 1/2 scale nylon strings, and it worked with the two cross braces; so maybe I'm overthinking. I doubt that the 1/2 scale strings had 70 pounds on them though, and I did build it thicker. 4 boys.

Did you do anything different with the thicknessing or bracing on the top? I just found by checking that Aromatic Red Cedar IS ERC.

Author:  BradHall [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:16 am ]
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That is exceptionally beautiful. Do you find yourself wishing you had bought the entire plank?

Author:  Robbie_McD [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:30 am ]
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Outstanding!

Author:  Clay S. [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:49 pm ]
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Another beautiful Goodman guitar.
Brad,
I admire your aesthetic sense. Your instruments are not only exceptionally well finished, but they also seem to have all the design elements come together perfectly.

Author:  Brad Goodman [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:03 pm ]
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bcombs510 wrote:
Brad, it looks great. Good to see something new. :)

Question on the Rubner tuners - I have a uke set I'm getting ready to finally use. I've had them around for a long time. They have a little bump on each bracket. Does the set you used here have that as well? If so, how did you deal with it? Make a small divot in the headstock to let it sit flat? File them off? I read that's a bad idea but I cannot find the article where I read that now.

Other Brad

Definitely don’t file them off – it’s what holds the tuners together..

I don’t think they do that anymore where the rivets stick out mine certainly doesn’t have it but I have dealt with that in the past and yes you do need to make a little divet for each one.
You could either use a drill bit or a little gouge.


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Author:  Brad Goodman [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:13 pm ]
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Ken Nagy wrote:
Wow, that must have been a huge tree. The cedar seems to have a lot of sinking, and shine to it. Those tuners are different, I like the way they look. It looks like they come on a faceplate?

One of the things that draws me more to guitar making is the chance to use different woods; violins are almost entirely spruce and maple. Of course when someone finishes them up so well, it lures you in too.

I have a 14.5" long Strad baroque that I'm ready to start putting together. I have a 3 mm thick piece of 100+ year old Eastern Red Cedar barn wood for the belly. It is heavier than WRC (.47sg, so it is in a different ball park), and the charts say that while WRC has a low E modulus of 1.1, ERC is only .88! The original only had two crossbars above and below the sound hole. I was thinking of doing a X brace from the top to the bottom; like what Bruce Sexauer did on his Snakewood build, but with the narrow body, and low bridge placement it would go all the way to the top and bottom. Like crossed Parallel bars. I did build a similar one for the grandsons a couple (few?) years ago, with five, 1/2 scale nylon strings, and it worked with the two cross braces; so maybe I'm overthinking. I doubt that the 1/2 scale strings had 70 pounds on them though, and I did build it thicker. 4 boys.

Did you do anything different with the thicknessing or bracing on the top? I just found by checking that Aromatic Red Cedar IS ERC.

I went a little bit thick on the top and light on the bracing.


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Author:  Brad Goodman [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:19 pm ]
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BradHall wrote:
That is exceptionally beautiful. Do you find yourself wishing you had bought the entire plank?

Thank you.
The rest of the board was unusable for Guitars.
It had knots and splits typical of aromatic red cedar.


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Author:  Hesh [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:38 pm ]
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Very classy Brad she's a beauty!

Author:  George L [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:50 pm ]
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Yeah, I like that one. Cool wood and wood story. Good job, man. [:Y:]

Author:  James Orr [ Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:44 pm ]
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Beautiful!


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