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Author:  Colin North [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:45 am ]
Post subject:  Gotoh 510s headstock thickness?
Client has bought and is supplying his own fancy tuners for a commission, but I don't have then yet.
Trouble is we're in lockdown.
I'm looking for the headstock thickness to fit them.
I believe they are basically the same fitting dimensions as standard 510s, but can't find anything on the net for a headstock thickness range.
Author:  Victor Seal [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:15 am ]
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LMII has a blueprint of the 510 on the website.
Author:  Colin North [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:24 am ]
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Thanks, got info from the Gotoh website for general dimensions (LMII site doesn't even show the threaded bushing)
I need a headstock thickness range.
Author:  Ken Lewis [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:11 am ]
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Most of the Gotoh tuners for paddle heads have the same headstock thickness range, I think. The A20LX part in your description
is in reference to the button, so I would think it's similar to this one in link. They should be ok with headstocks from 10mm to at least
15mm.
https://www.woodtoworks.com/Gotoh-SGL51 ... _3797.html
Author:  Brad Goodman [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:16 am ]
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I make mine .60"
Author:  Tim Mullin [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:00 am ]
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Colin North wrote:
Thanks, got info from the Gotoh website for general dimensions (LMII site doesn't even show the threaded bushing)
I need a headstock thickness range.

Colin: the info really is in the Gotoh pdf catalogue, but not that easy to decipher. The standard post is 20.2 mm from base to string hole. The collar is 12.2 mm long. That part number indicates a Grover-style engraved button. Must be pricey!


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Author:  klooker [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:15 am ]
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The 510's I have can be used from about 13mm to 15mm (just over to 1/2" to almost 5/8"). You could use them on a thinner peghead but you would have to file or grind off some to the bushing because it bottoms out.

9/16" or 14.2mm seems to be the sweetspot.
Attachment:
Gotoh510.jpg


Kevin Looker
Author:  SnowManSnow [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:19 am ]
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I use about 15mm
There’s some
Play there. Just no more than 15


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Author:  Freeman [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:23 am ]
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I am in the process of putting some on a head that is exactly 1/2 inch thick (which was called out as the minimum in a spec sheet somewhere). That is marginally too thin, I'm probably going to have to use extra thick washers. I'm kicking myself for not actually having them in hand when I planed the head plate.
Author:  Terence Kennedy [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:26 am ]
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I use them on my archtops and also use 0.60.
Author:  Colin North [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:42 am ]
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Thanks guys, sounds about the same as the Gotoh 381s I've been using.
Klooker, that's the same way I measure - screw the bush in, find the mid-point, maximum and minimum measurements
Thank you.
Author:  Ken Lewis [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:20 pm ]
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As per Kevin's pics I checked a set of 510's I had on the shelf and they bottomed out at 12.5mm.
When I said 10mm for the minimum headstock thickness I was assuming the bushing would go all the way
home. 'Course it doesn't. Should'a been smart like Kevin and gone and measured.
Author:  Colin North [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:16 pm ]
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Ken Lewis wrote:
As per Kevin's pics I checked a set of 510's I had on the shelf and they bottomed out at 12.5mm.
When I said 10mm for the minimum headstock thickness I was assuming the bushing would go all the way
home. 'Course it doesn't. Should'a been smart like Kevin and gone and measured.

No worries, I done gone spotted that.
Of course, I've never done anything like that! duh
Author:  meddlingfool [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:30 pm ]
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I use 15mm as a target as well...
Author:  Joe Beaver [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:38 pm ]
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For 510's I use about 9/16" or 14.29mm, + or - about .75mm
Author:  Ken Lewis [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:54 pm ]
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I was curious as to what this tuner looks like, time on my hands, so I went alookin'.
Aluminum engraved grover style button, as Tim pointed out.

https://g-gotoh.com/product/sgv510z/?lang=en

Button on page 48 in the 2020 cat. Nice.

https://g-gotoh.com/catalog-download/?lang=en
Author:  Colin North [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:20 pm ]
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Bit whorehouse for me, but client bought them when he was a "little bit more than tipsy" so wanted to find a use for them. :)
Author:  Ken Lewis [ Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:01 pm ]
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You'll have to build guitar to suit :)
Author:  Joe Beaver [ Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:49 am ]
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If he wants to unload a few more you can always send them my way. I'm just here to help.
Author:  Pwoolson [ Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:00 am ]
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Freeman wrote:
I am in the process of putting some on a head that is exactly 1/2 inch thick (which was called out as the minimum in a spec sheet somewhere). That is marginally too thin, I'm probably going to have to use extra thick washers. I'm kicking myself for not actually having them in hand when I planed the head plate.

I think you'll find that they will bottom out at 1/2" (or slightly thicker, very slightly) so you might get buzzing from the washers. I just take the bushings to the belt sander and take off a few threads. I've got a pair of vise grips that have mark on them where I pinch the flat part and sand the threads until I just kiss the vise grips. Easy peasy.
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