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| Author: | mike-p [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Anyone got a clever idea for a simple Bwb rosette ring. I don't have a bending pipe and when I make the lines small enough, they look too small! |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
If you want the lines to be "thicker" then cut the rosette channel wider and inlay the lines BBWWBB instead of BWB. By varying the number of lines of the same color you can make them appear as thick and thin. |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
I was thinking of that but thought the double white/ maple would get bad glue lines? |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
You could do a mock up and see how it looks to you. Fiber might work better than wood and keeping things tight in the channel can reduce glue lines. |
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| Author: | DennisK [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Heat up a pan on the stove and bend against that. |
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| Author: | BobHowell [ Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
I found veneer in several thickness, black up to 1/16". Maple in several but not as thick as black. I have cut 1/32" on bs, but uniform thickness is problem. Actually I get 1/32" strips on table saw consistently but just 1" wide. Pulling through 120 sandpaper cleans them up. Dipping in hot water will enable you to bend them. |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
This is great thanks everyone. I bought black .60 veneer and was cutting maple and thicknessing on the drum sander. Is the sander not accurate enough? |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
I can usually get my purflings +- .0001 on the drumsander. |
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| Author: | Barry Daniels [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
I think you have too many zeros there, Ed. |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
An extra zero amongst friends is nothing! |
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| Author: | Pmaj7 [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Double Maple will definitely have a glue line. Double black not so much. Double white not sure. I think I could only get to within .002ish on the thickness sander which is pretty close. There is usually a bit of thickness sander snipe also albeit not much. So make them extra long. New username, same Pat Mac |
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| Author: | Heath Blair [ Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
A curling iron gets plenty hot to bend purfling, depending on the species. |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Ok thanks all. I've a piece of 1mm maple bent round a small metal bowl and four pieces of black dyed sycamore veneer ready to go. Do I use CA, wedge them in and flood it? I've sealed the top but really don't want the nasty yellow ca streaks! Titebond in the slot and then try to get all the pieces in? Any further advice appreciated. Thanks. |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
I’ve had the best luck with a tight fit and flood with CA. I could never get the titebond swelling the material ratio worked out and it usually ended in cussing. With CA, pack it as tight as you can and flood it. Correct on the shellac in the channel to prevent discoloring. Brad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | mike-p [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Ahhh! Thanks. I sealed the top before I routed the channels and didn't think to seal the channels. I'll do that thanks. |
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| Author: | bcombs510 [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Yeah, definitely seal the channel. It won’t cause any issues with the CA and will prevent the discoloring. Good luck! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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| Author: | Bryan Bear [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gibson rosette rings in wood |
Definitely seal the channel if you are using CA; you want to prevent it from sucking into the endgrain and staining. |
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