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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The Agony and the Ecstasy |
At this point it is more agony. Brazilian Rosewood side bending disaster. My Bad. The good part is I know what went wrong and why, and have been making positive changes to my Fox style bender. And my technique. My question to this excellent guitar building community; anyone know of a replacement side set of BRW? Help of any kind would be appreciated. |
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| Author: | wbergman [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
I am here only as a last resort. I want to keep mine, but I have sympathy, too. It might have to be a set with minor worm holes. So, I hope someone else offers a solution. |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
What exactly was the problem then? |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
jfmckenna wrote: What exactly was the problem then? The benders waist caul was tipped. Because the shoe was a sloppy fit in the bender. So after I bent upper and lower bouts I snugged the waist down the last quarter inch. but the side was not perpendicular to the mold at the waist. (it was up perhaps a half inch at the tops edge, less at the backs edge. Ended up with cracks cross the grain. I spent hours today rebuilding the bender to prevent this from happening in the future. Expensive lesson. Ouch. |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
wbergman wrote: I am here only as a last resort. I want to keep mine, but I have sympathy, too. It might have to be a set with minor worm holes. So, I hope someone else offers a solution. I can accept a few worm holes, since the back from the set has a few. Thanks for the sympathy. I'll be licking this wound for a while! |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
If you are interested in doing laminated sides from veneer I may be able to help you out. BRW comes in a lot of colors and shades so pictures of the back panels would aid in matching the set. |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Ah bummer, yeah I can see how that could happen. |
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| Author: | wbergman [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
By the way, you can still iron it flat and use it for head pieces or for ukulele backs and sides. |
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| Author: | Freeman [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Can't help with the Braz, but I remember a seminar with Charles Fox at a GAL convention a while back. He was demonstrating side bending, mahogany with a cut away and - SNAP. He took the two pieces out of the bender, looked at the audience and said "that happens" |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Appreciate the sympathy. Still kicking myself for not being more focused on what was I was doing. I’ve been considering laminating sides- a definite advantage for a couple reasons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Clay S. wrote: If you are interested in doing laminated sides from veneer I may be able to help you out. BRW comes in a lot of colors and shades so pictures of the back panels would aid in matching the set. What do you use as the inner veneer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Clay S. wrote: If you are interested in doing laminated sides from veneer I may be able to help you out. BRW comes in a lot of colors and shades so pictures of the back panels would aid in matching the set.  Clay- this is the BRW back. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Getting a veneer and doing double sides is a great idea. You may get a better sounding guitar and become a double sides believer as fringe benefits. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Hi David, I can look through the veneer this weekend. How long and wide do the side pieces need to be? Generally I do 3 layers of rosewood, but many people use mahogany, walnut, or some other wood species for the inner layer. |
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| Author: | Rocky Road [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Clay S. wrote: Hi David, I can look through the veneer this weekend. How long and wide do the side pieces need to be? Generally I do 3 layers of rosewood, but many people use mahogany, walnut, or some other wood species for the inner layer. Clay it is a Small Jumbo, 32 long, 4 1/2 at the end wedge. It will need Brazilian inside and out. Thanks! |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Hi David, This is what I found. The pieces are approx. 3 ft X 7 1/2 inches. I will send you a PM on the particulars ( I don't know how to send pictures in a P.M. |
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| Author: | klooker [ Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Agony and the Ecstasy |
Dake Traphagen posted some BRW in the classifieds a while back. I suspect he still has some - you can email him if you're still looking. He was listing sets but he may have orphans. |
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