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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
I wanted to share this build with everyone. It is based off of a Gibson L-0 1920s body. I didn’t follow the H brace of the original but opted for a more familiar x. I’m still learning, but man things are SO much cleaner than they were a few years ago. I know pics are a LOT more fun than reading soooooo——>              And that’s where she is as of now. I’m pore filling the neck and hopefully I’ll be ready to start finish next weekend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Very nice! |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
meddlingfool wrote: Very nice! Thank you Mr. Ed. I m very curious to see how it sounds.... guess I can wait a while longer:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | LarryH [ Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Really like the sound ports - looks nice...been trying to figure out different ways to add depth. Keep us posted on progress please. |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
LarryH wrote: Really like the sound ports - looks nice...been trying to figure out different ways to add depth. Keep us posted on progress please. Thank you sir. I’ll update as I go. Next step is sanding off the pore fill / color matching on the neck:) I have some slick gunmetal black 510 tuners for this one too! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | Mark Mc [ Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Lovely. I have always liked that very elegant body shape. Timber choices are also nice, and a 13 fret is my favourite set-up. So this one ticks all of the boxes for me. It is going on the list of future project ideas. Thanks for sharing. |
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| Author: | jfmckenna [ Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Nice job Snowman, I like that body shape too. |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Pores filled and wash coat on:) lovely grain pattern. Not the easiest to work, but very cool imo  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
 EM6000 finish built:) the can says sanding and such after 150 hours? Is this sufficient ? Or does it help To wait longer ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | J De Rocher [ Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Target's tech data sheet for EM6000 says that it is chemically cured after 120 hours in the temperature range of 60-80 degrees. https://www.targetcoatings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/TC_TechDataSheet_EM6000_R3.pdf I don't know if "chemically cured" is the same as being ready for final sanding and polishing though. I started out letting the finish cure for much longer (28 days) based on methods I read about six years ago when I first started using EM6000 that called for long cure times. I've cut that back to 18 days with no problems. I'm usually not trying to meet a deadline for finishing a guitar so I've been fine with taking a conservative approach and take advantage of the curing time to work on the next guitar. It sure would be nice to be able to make it shorter though if needed. Charles Tauber reported over on the AGF that he found that after one week of cure time the finish was not hard enough for sanding and polishing, but it was fine after two weeks. Factors like your specific temperature and humidity conditions and the number of coats per day and total number of coats would likely have some effect on the cure time. Maybe someone here has pushed the envelope on cure time and can chime in. |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
J De Rocher wrote: Target's tech data sheet for EM6000 says that it is chemically cured after 120 hours in the temperature range of 60-80 degrees. https://www.targetcoatings.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/TC_TechDataSheet_EM6000_R3.pdf I don't know if "chemically cured" is the same as being ready for final sanding and polishing though. I started out letting the finish cure for much longer (28 days) based on methods I read about six years ago when I first started using EM6000 that called for long cure times. I've cut that back to 18 days with no problems. I'm usually not trying to meet a deadline for finishing a guitar so I've been fine with taking a conservative approach and take advantage of the curing time to work on the next guitar. It sure would be nice to be able to make it shorter though if needed. Charles Tauber reported over on the AGF that he found that after one week of cure time the finish was not hard enough for sanding and polishing, but it was fine after two weeks. Factors like your specific temperature and humidity conditions and the number of coats per day and total number of coats would likely have some effect on the cure time. Maybe someone here has pushed the envelope on cure time and can chime in. I’ll probably give it at least 2 weeks. During this time I like to clean my shop area / upgrade anything that has been needing to be done and so forth. The guitar is sitting in 35-38rh and 69degree controlled environment Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
   A little eye candy to keep ease my need to post for the next week  Btw. I followed the vid from Jay in the EM 6000 and it came out fine. A simple shellac on the top and scuffing the epoxy then spray. it seems to be good stuff.... even for a beginner Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
I couldn’t resist putting the pets together to see how it looks. No leveling or buffing done yet!! (Aside from the one in the middle of coating) She will get black horn nut and saddle       Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | J De Rocher [ Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
That's a good looking guitar. |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
J De Rocher wrote: That's a good looking guitar. Thank you sir. I’m still making rookie mistakes, but they are becoming fewer, or at least I’m getting better fixing them haha I have really enjoyed this build! It has been good for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
 New buffer for the win!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Some updated pics. After buffing.     The finish isn’t perfect but is by far the best imve done so far. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | SnowManSnow [ Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Build 10. Sapele and Engelman |
Just to finish out the thread. She’s done:)     Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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