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SnowManSnow

Post subject: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:21 pm

Koa

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I realize not everyone is a fan of zipflex. However I’m using it as n the parameter of my 000 build.
I have a slight issue because the width is ~.010 too wide. The extra width is the rubber substrate around it.
I have used the smallest bearing to cut the channel I have. The plan is to install the zipflex and the BWB in the same channel, but with. The extra width it causes the wood binding which would come next to lean out, which is obviously unacceptable.

My thoughts on a course of action is to:
1: install as is
2: carefully sand away the outer rubber and enough of the pearl sonthat it sits flush with where it needs to be
3: install binding as planned.

Am I asking for trouble like this ?
Advise is appreciated
B

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Freeman

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:24 pm

Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:46 pm
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First name: Freeman
Last Name: Keller
Focus: Build
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Why not get the right size bearing and make the channel the right size? Then you'll have that bearing for the next time

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SnowManSnow

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:36 pm

Koa

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Freeman wrote:

Why not get the right size bearing and make the channel the right size? Then you'll have that bearing for the next time

I’m looking for it

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meddlingfool

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:40 pm

Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:15 pm
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First name: Ed
Last Name: Bond
City: Vancouver
Country: Canada
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Status: Professional

Have you checked LMI?

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Freeman

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:50 pm

Brazilian Rosewood

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First name: Freeman
Last Name: Keller
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https://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/T ... rings.html

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SnowManSnow

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:52 pm

Koa

Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:43 am
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I found it:/ sorry for the panic Post guys

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SnowManSnow

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:02 pm

Koa

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On a related issue... a friend of mine recommended using a gramil before cutting any channels... do you all use one ?

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johnparchem

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:55 pm

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Last Name: Parchem
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SnowManSnow wrote:

On a related issue... a friend of mine recommended using a gramil before cutting any channels... do you all use one ?

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Before you found the bearing I was going to suggest a gramil to widen the channel.

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meddlingfool

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:40 pm

Brazilian Rosewood

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Nope.

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Jim Watts

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 pm

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SnowManSnow wrote:

On a related issue... a friend of mine recommended using a gramil before cutting any channels... do you all use one ?

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It's obviously not necessary but I always do this on tops. It eliminates the fuzzy's and makes for really clean cuts. Another tip is to apply a wash coat of shellac to the top, this helps too.

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ernie

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:27 am

Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:08 pm
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First name: ernest
Last Name: kleinman
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I have 2 purfling /binding cutters one is brass and cherry for guitar making and the other is an all brass chinese vln purfling cutter. On some tops and backs especially with irregular grain . I like to pre score my binding /purfling line.

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Joe Beaver

Post subject: Re: Zipflex install issue

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:41 pm

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Glad to hear you have found a resolution. I like to do all kinds of odd binding schemes and also struggled to cut the right size channels with the cutters that use the bearings for a guide. Plus my cutter for the set developed a crack, so I bit the bullet and bought the setup from Luthiers Suppliers , I think it was.

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