So, I'm following the instructions on the label, 3 parts glue, 2 parts water, and the consistency is like toffee, unuseable.
Normally I just add water til it looks good, but I'm wondering if there's something wrong with this glue...
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:50 pm ] |
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So, I'm following the instructions on the label, 3 parts glue, 2 parts water, and the consistency is like toffee, unuseable. Normally I just add water til it looks good, but I'm wondering if there's something wrong with this glue...
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| Author: | Mark Mc [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:28 pm ] |
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I start with equal volumes of granulated glue and water, or even a bit more water than glue. Then heat it to 140 degrees F. Are you getting it hot enough? Check the temperature with one of those roast meat thermometers. Maybe the old crock pot is letting you down? If it's not that, then your glue is sus. |
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| Author: | Aaron O [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:33 pm ] |
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Not sure what glue you have, but that seems like not enough water. http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier ... glue1.html |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:36 pm ] |
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From time to time I try following instructions, it's usually a let down... |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:42 pm ] |
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That vid gives a completely different ratio, thanks... |
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| Author: | Aaron O [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:43 pm ] |
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meddlingfool wrote: That vid gives a completely different ratio, thanks... So does the link to Frank's site. http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Luthier ... glue1.html I've seen different "recipes" across the net - whether by volume or weight, the ones I've seen "average" 2:1 water to glue. Your instructions is the only one I've seen that has more glue to water. |
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| Author: | Clay S. [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:56 pm ] |
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No Measure method - To make up hide glue I fill small bottles with the granules and then fill in the voids between them with water, heat it to 140 degrees. It seems to be about the right consistency for most jobs. |
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| Author: | meddlingfool [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:20 pm ] |
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I'd have to say that my instructions are just wrong, that's all. No wonder I never follow instructions. |
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| Author: | DennisK [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:29 pm ] |
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Clay S. wrote: No Measure method - To make up hide glue I fill small bottles with the granules and then fill in the voids between them with water, heat it to 140 degrees. It seems to be about the right consistency for most jobs. I start the same way (fill until the water is a bit over top of the granules in the bottle), but usually have to add more water after heating it up. Better to start too thick since you can add water quickly, but adding more granules takes time for them to saturate and liquefy. Maybe whoever wrote your instructions meant to put 3 parts water and 2 parts glue. Might be a little watery at that point, but probably still usable. |
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| Author: | doncaparker [ Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:54 pm ] |
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When you say parts, are you measuring volume or weight? I go by weight. I prefer a ratio of about 1.8 parts water to 1 part dry glue, by weight. 2 to 1 is awfully runny, but can be useful for tasks that call for runny glue. |
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| Author: | ernie [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:22 am ] |
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Visual guide is a steady drip of hhg off the brush, vlnmakers use a bristle brush. If too fast and thin add more glue, if too thick and slow add more water , |
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| Author: | Terence Kennedy [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:53 am ] |
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I also make small batches for the job at hand in small plastic squeeze bottles. Put in the granules, add distilled water until it saturates the granules and pour off any excess. Heat and add a little water if needed. Usually it is good. I have found that if there is a layer of water over the granules it is usually too thin. I learned the trick of putting a stainless steel nut in the bottle so it floats upright right here on the OLF many years ago from Mario P. |
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| Author: | Allen McFarlen [ Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:12 pm ] |
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I use 315gm glue and my mix is 1 part glue to 2 parts water. Comes out like medium to thin honey. |
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| Author: | fingerstyle1978 [ Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:38 pm ] |
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When I weight it out it comes out a bit thicker than I'd like but using Earlwine's recommended proportions (2 to 1 ) it came out really watery and unusable so I just do it by wight and thin it out a bit when it seems too thick. |
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