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Author:  Garmo [ Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Bandsaw opportunity

Hey good people.

I have an opportunity to buy what looks to be a virtually new Grizzly 17", G0513x2 bandsaw. Or so it looks in pictures. I will be looking at it today.

I am not familiar with Grizzley bandsaws. I am about to begin my first guitar build after tax season ends so I would like your thoughts on quality and value. Asking price is a bit high at $1,095 I think.

Comments appreciated.

Gary

Author:  fingerstyle1978 [ Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

Garmo wrote:
Hey good people.

I have an opportunity to buy what looks to be a virtually new Grizzly 17", G0513x2 bandsaw. Or so it looks in pictures. I will be looking at it today.

I am not familiar with Grizzley bandsaws. I am about to begin my first guitar build after tax season ends so I would like your thoughts on quality and value. Asking price is a bit high at $1,095 I think.

Comments appreciated.

Gary

I have the 3HP 19" Grizzly and its pretty nice- it does everything I've ever asked it to do. 2HP should be fine if you dont plan on doing a lot of heavy re-sawing. The price is a little high for a used machine but if it's got an aftermarket blade on it like a Woodmaster CT then it may be a good deal. The blade that came on mine was a POS.


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Author:  Joe Beaver [ Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

It does seem a little high. If it has some blades that come with it and one of them has carbide tips then maybe. If not I would try to get it for less than $1000.

Author:  jac68984 [ Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

For that money, the saw should be next to new and come with a nice selection of blades. If you have some patience and look hard enough, I suspect you could find an equivalent or better saw for 1/2 to 1/3 of the price. Older 14 inch bandsaw with 2 horse motors are pretty common and you can often snag them for $400 or less. Add a $90 riser block and the resaw capabilities are very similar and blades will be cheaper. If you are really serious about resawing, look for something in the 3-5 horse range. If you’re not, forget the riser block because the 14 inch is sufficient for pre-thicknessed (even roughly) guitar parts. If you move towards resawing later, get a separate saw and keep it set up for resawing. Just my two cents.


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Author:  ernie [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

You can always find a low cost craftsman 12in BS they are ubiquitous and a great start out tool for luthiers on a budget I/ve gotten them for 35$ and 65$ off craiglist. The key to using a BS is proper set up and maintenance and there are so many youtube videos to show you this . Once youve gained experience and feel confident you can upgrade to a higher quality of Bs and relegate the craftsman for many grunt related tasks IMHO a much maligned and under appreciated BS .Good Luck .you can pocket the savings and invest in further tools . education etc.

Author:  Clay S. [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

The specifications on the saw don't sound that bad for most lutherie work and occasional resawing (I've done some resawing with a 1/2 hp motor). But I agree, the price is close to that of a new saw. If the saw is virtually new and runs well and you can get it for a little less than a grand the 25% savings might be worth considering. Grizzly tools seem to have somewhat of an uneven quality - some people love them and some people hate them. A friend of mine bought a 10" Grizzly cabinet saw. The first one he sent back, the second one they brought he is happy with.
You might ask why the person is selling the saw.

Author:  Woodie G [ Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

Several of the luthiers that spend time here have the 17" GO-513X2B or X2F models. Both handle resaw of 10" cocobolo without issue. The advantage to a larger saw is the ability to tension a wider blade such as the Woodmaster CT series blades we use on our 19" GO-514X2B. I would agree that the price is a bit high for used machinery, and without a foot or motor brake, coast-down will be an annoyance is anyone else is working in the shop (the rule here is blade stationary before leaving a machine, so the sub-3 second coast-down time for the motor brake is welcome). Also note that this model does not have the highly rated Grizzly cast iron/aluminum fence that comes standard on the upper end 513 and 514 models.

If $1000 is already in the range of financial viability, you might consider putting a few more dollars aside and going to a 17" with motor brake and upgraded fence, or the 19" with brake and iron fence. If resaw is not important, a 14" cast iron saw will handle just about anything luthiers need done, and a few hundred dollars will put an older US-made Delta in the shop, leaving some money for upgrades.

Author:  Garmo [ Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

Thanks for the input guys.

I bought it for $800, and it came with a nice selection of blades. It is virtually like new.

I'm sure it will last a long time. I look forward to getting to know it.

Author:  wolfsearcher [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

Well done Garmo
Good luck with your new machine

Tomas

Author:  ernie [ Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Bandsaw opportunity

If you have any problems with grizz bs you can contact their tech dept for help

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